Interesting machine

And you bought it to make Russian Field Jacket buttons, da? ;)

Oh, jeez. I hope you're not planning to buy it. That's the kind of machine you used to see in the automobile industry -- 40 years ago.

I already bought it. I hope that it weighs 50 tons.

i

Yikes, that will take a week or two to dismantle and truck. I know you have a big building, but can you even fit all that in with the other stuff you have?

That one goes straight to a scrap yard. I may save a few bits and pieces, though.

i

For scrap, I assume?

Yes, definitely. A few useful things can be saved from it, but it is a patently useless machine that no one can figure out, anyway. I hope that it weighs 50 tons. I did see it.

i

I would think the motors and hydraulic power units would be more valuable as-is than as-scrap.

I agree with you, especially about the motors. The power units, I am not so sure, although I would hate to scrap them. The motors are great, there is a lot of multiples on them. Good for phase converters or whatever.

i

Well, it should have LOTS of useful parts in it. Lots of hydraulic valves, maybe even some Moog proportional servo valves.

Jon

Yes, here are the categories of things that I thought about

0) Steel 1) Electric motors 2) Copper wire 3) [possibly] hydraulic units, they look nice. 4) Hydraulic valves 5) Servo motors 6) Servo control by A-B 7) Hydraulic oil, I have someone who buys oil from me 8) Electrical controls

He's probably going to kill somebody one of these days soon; he's got zero formal training and most of his "rigging" is junk that someone else has discarded for safety issues.

IIRC, he's already come close at least once, while disassembling an overhead crane.

You recall incorrectly. He witnessed some hacks nearly get killed disassembling an overhead crane, he had nothing to do with it.

You are correct. Someone else was doing the dismantling. Those people are scrap metal gypsies (Romani).

I never buy overhead cranes, as a matter of fact, due to safety concerns. Too heavy and too high for me to deal with. You need two big telehandlers to remove them safely.

So much venom from this "precisionmachinist", all because I killfiled him for off-topic posts. Doubtfully this is a successful , well adjusted individual.

i

No, you use the crane itself--something you'd know if you had any real rigging experience.

What did you pay for alladat?

You can proly estimate the weight pretty well. Steel weighs 480#/cu ft, ditto copper, brass (approx), or 60# per 6" cube. You could proly visually estimate an avg "spatial density" of select measurable volumes pretty well, and come up with a grand total, good to +/-

15%.

I imagine it is going to take quite some time disassembling alladat, on top of the rigging itself.

A lot!

I am still learning this scrap business.

My best guess is that there is 50 short tons of steel in it. (I hate short tons, but scrap yards here operate in short tons)

My another guess is that disassembly and rigging, will take 4 days.

i

He makes everybody feel better about themselves!

Since this equipment will never be put into operation as-is again, assuming it's ok with the place you're removing it from, don't be afraid to separate sections with a big abrasive cutoff saw or for tighter areas an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel. Keep a fire extinguisher nearby, but that will be the fastest way to get through mixed materials and get on with the loading. Sawzalls are good too, but an abrasive wheel will beat them for time on most materials.