Manufacturing is BOOMING in USA

Yes. See .

Joe Gwinn

The idea of a Chinese produced router as part of a DOD network is scary as hell.

Your post had me wondering where Intel has chip fabrication located so I did a bit of googling.

This link is a couple years old but I was pretty darn happy to see Intel doesn't have fabrication plants in China.

Wes

Is the boom due to census workers hired for the couple weeks? Or, maybe the new IRS guys, and all the workers mandated by the Health Care Deform?

I would like to see some data Ed. Thanks

i

And yet true.

Look for powerpoint slides there

Good to hear.

i

On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:50:29 -0500, the infamous Ned Simmons scrawled the following:

My buddy (Terry in LoCal) does similar work and is having feasts and famines throughout the year for several years now.

So, Ned. What do you hear? Are they saying that expansion is from Obama's fabulous job so far, or is everyone saying "Well, it doesn't look as if he's going to take the country down this year, let's invest and expand for awhile."

-- It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. -- Charles Darwin

Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on or about Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:55:17 -0700 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Friend of mine figures he may be able to do likewise in a couple years. Sell the house, close the office, move out of state - just over the border. Still work in this state, get a reciprocity deal with the neighbor state. He figures he can cut back to merely a forty hour week and make ends meet.

Some things can't be outsourced.

But my question was more about "Hmmm, I need machine tools, where can I 'pick them up' for just the cost of hauling them away?"

I am remembering article from several years ago, that in a number of countries, it was such an onerous task for a business to fail (legally) that many owners would just close the doors and disappear. Sounds like similar things are happening in SoCal.

tschus pyotr

- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Ok. First off, total manufacturing output, adjusted for inflation. The gray bands are recessions. If you want to see data preceding 1970, click on "Vintage Series" (ALFRED):

The Annual Survey of Manufactures goes into great detail, but it involves a lot of paging. There are filters and so on that you can use:

This one (the M3 report) is tedious to read, but you can drill down and see how much we're manufacturing in very finely-defined categories. It's the big one. Since it's a drill-down table, you can see broad categories and then finer ones.

When I did reports on manufacturing for the trade press, this is the one I used. And if you think this is tedious, you should have seen it in the old days, when one report was one bookshelf full of computer printouts:

There are download options for these files. If you want graphs, or want to compare a category output over time, you'll have to fish around for historic tables and create your own graphs. I used to do this frequently. It's a hassle. Here's home base:

One very interesting thing to look at is the trade data. I'm going to recommend this for a start:

Here's the home for that general class of data:

Note that our exports really are not that far below our imports, if you look at them in the same place (the graph does this). When we talk about protecting against imports, we have to wonder who will buy all those exports if we do.

The tables in the PDF above show many surprising things. We're exporting as much in many industrial categories as we import. If it wasn't for oil and low-end consumer goods, we'd be pretty close to balance.

Enough for now? There's a ton of this stuff available. These links aren't always the quickest to read, but they collectively answer just about any question you might have.

They're saying, "Gee, he pumped trillions of dollars into the most corrupt industries and poorly run companies he could find... and six months later there's a little "blip" on the manufacturing index. Whooo-hooo!"

Keep in mind that "pumping" takes form of asset purchases, buying preferred stock and (possibly) equity. These are investments that are, in most cases, recoverable.

i

keep in mind that most of the hate postings are by people who are bitter, isolated and not on the receiving side of any benefit. There used to be a time when we felt that what was good for the country as a whole was the right thing to do - you will notice that this attitude is now gone, particularly from those posting about death panels, baby killing, and using divisive terms and invective. We had a civil war once - it was not pleasant. I had hoped we had matured enough to find solutions rather than make speeches but evidence appears to the contrary. Carl Rove and his divide and win policy certainly has not helped any. The demise of newspapers has led to the uniformed believing what they read on internet blogs or hear screamed by talking heads who are paid for their ability to arouse, not for their ability to be truthful. Those who denigrate the current administration via ad-hominem attacks and factless accusations are part of the problem - and screaming, shouting, and spittle do not lead to a dialog, solution, unity, or progress. Did anyone ever see Regan, for example, stoop to this level? or Eisenhower? or even either of the Bushes?

"Bill Noble" wrote in news:hp85js$opr$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

This describes the majority of the US population.

If it was good for the country there wouldn't be the divisness that you're complaining about.

The fact that it's BAD for the country is the very reason for the divisivness.

What makes you think that it's over?

It just moved from an armed conflict phase to an economic war phase and the South is winning.

No, but we saw a lot of it from FDR, JFK, LBJ, Jimmie "the Klutz" Carter, the Clintons and, now, BHO - the Affirmative Action President.

But they are Sooo much trouble to read all those funny words 'n thingies.....Can't I just watch Fox News?

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Cheers,

John D. (jdslocombatgmail)

You could, and many can, which explains may unfortunate things.

I haven't given a talk on that stuff for a few years but when I do, I boil it all down to graphs: comparisons, trend lines, etc. As I said, it's a lot of work, but it's pretty startling when you see the real thing, in light of the impressions we get from the news.

That graph in the first link above, of the US historical manufacturing output, is enough to make many people sit up and scratch their heads.

BTW, that "Vintage" ALFRED link is not what I expected -- I should have checked more carefully. They did something weird. ALFRED usually gives you long-term historical results.

Ed, thanks. I am going to fly back home from CA, in an hour, and I downloaded your articles on the laptop to read in-flight.

Here's one more piece about how the recession has likely ended:

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Enjoy your data-crunching.

I hope Greenspan is right. As I've mentioned before, I'm always behind the curve on optimism regarding job-creation because (probably) I don't have a full, imaginative grasp of how jobs grow in this free-for-all economy of ours. It always amazes me, but not because I don't believe in the business cycle. It's just a matter of wondering where they're going to come from.

Have a good flight.

I can honestly say it's never come up. All the folks I choose to deal with are down to earth, pragmatic engineers or techs -- I come here for my dose of wacky economic theory.