Monarch 10EE lathe

No..a very doable idea. Its not gonna be an easy task..but a worthwhile one if you have the time and money.

Getting it into and out of the properly rated trailer..how will you accomplish that?

Some folks mean well..others..shrug

Gunner

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I'm a proud 10EE owner. One of the finest lathes ever built. The ways are flame hardened, most machines don't seem to wear at all here. Be forewarned that new parts from Monarch cost a FORTUNE. There's been a number of folks part out 10EEs on Ebay and make a lot of bucks - way more than the cost of a used machine.

A VFD drive is the way to go. You can use a five horse three phase motor and keep the existing backgear. Its a bit of a job fitting this to a new motor. If I were to do a 10EE again, I'd go with a larger motor, 10hp, and do away with the backgear.

P.S. After seeing this auction,

Isn't that a coincidence? I have a 10 hp motor and a 20hp motor that I was intending on creating a rotary converter with. Interesting suggestion on the use of raw hp to bypass the multiplicative advantage of the backgear. Encouraging also to know that the tendency for wear at the ways are less likely, I found that intimidating if I had to deal with the cost of regrinding the ways. The other consideration is that the compound slide is said to need work which has been "started" but not concluded. I could infer that some sort of regrind on it may be needed somehow. The seller is supposed to take a closer look today and give further information. Stand by and we shall see. Thanks for the remarks.

Karl Townsend wrote:

If this is that Sheldon from Paso Robles, you won't have any trouble loading it in your trailer - the seller has a forklift. To remove it from a trailer, I would personally use an automotive engine hoist. I'd sling it using webbed slings, 2 of 'em, under the base. You should be able to skid the machine from it's travelling position over the axles to the rear of the trailer using a comealong. Then pick up the machine with the engine hoist, roll the trailer out from under it, and put the machine down onto your pallet jack. Engine hoists are very capable of lifting an 800 pound shaper. I am quite certain about this, as I just did this bringing home an 11" Vernon shaper, which is just about the same size and weight. You can rent an engine hoist if you don't have one and can't borrow one.

By the way, I bid on that Sheldon shaper. That's a very nice machine.

Grant Erwin

A couple of years ago, Karl sent in a piece re. the 10EE motor replacement. If I remember correctly, Karl installed a new VFD driven motor within the shell of the old, original 10 HP DC motor. That was a class piece of work ! I suggest the OP contact Karl for details. A rebuild of an OE DC or hydraulic drive Monarch 10EE puts a new spin on the definition of "daunting task".

Bob Swinney

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message news:9L4Vg.7176$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...

You have a good memory, Bob. I'd be glad to share this method, if needs be. If I were doing it again, I'd just install a 10 HP VFD and 3 phase motor, no backgear. The old motor and backgear will sell on ebay for more than the cost diffenrence.

Karl

So, OK Karl. Now where's my sack of apples ?

Bob Swinney

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message news:458Vg.7460$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...

If the shaper weighs just 800 lbs, the best thing to use is a "shop crane" on casters, which can easily handle that much. They are $150 at Harbor Freight and are a worthwhile investment. Just make sure that your cradle is secure and the shaper cannot fall out of it when lifted.

Lift the shaper, drive the trailer underneath it (making sure not to drive over the legs of the crane), and lower it. Strap it well to the trailer. Reverse the process when you get home.

Should take you about 40 minutes, not counting the time to disassemble the crane.

Should be an easy job if your surface is level. 800 lbs is not much, though it requires respect.

In the apple cooler.

Karl

I don't think it's different from any long-term restoration project. The questions you have to ask yourself are:

Can I afford to loose the floor space that the device and it's parts will take up for a long time?

Will I have the time, patience and money to see the project through? Will my wife have the patience to let me spend the money and listen to my bitching while I see the project through?

Will it be worth it in the end?

If the answers are yes, then by all means, go at it. Every time I look at a restoration project, too many of them are no.

You could do worse than to post a query over at the Practicalmachinist forum, as well. There is a sub forum there dedicated to the Monarch lathes and the knowledge base is pretty good.

practicalmachinist.com

Cheers Trevor Jones

I will consider that technique. I do have a cherry picker but it is a chinese one, I have a tingle of mistrust about lifting 800# with it although I lifted a Cybertig 300 off of my truck bed. And yes, that is the shaper I got, I'm excited about it! Thanks for the advise.

Grant Erw>

I have a 10EE I purchased from a Government Auction in mint condition. If someone is looking for one I will make them an excellent deal. Located in California

That sounds awesome except I don't think you could make it excellent to fit my budget right now.

Still, I am sure I'm not the only one who would love to see some pictures.

Anyone know what those lathes were used for? I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects in "awkward" alloys?

I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the

Anyone know what those lathes were used for? I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects in "awkward" alloys?

I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the

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I saw a large Monarch at an auction that was said to have made torpedos. They are highly regarded as competing with the Hardinge HLV as the finest precision lathes for instrument work.