Moving

Two questions:

- Why so soon?

- Does the new house have a big shop?

Further from Chicago?

Paul

OH, boy.. now you've gone and done it. I suspect that the family didn't outgrow the present domicile, but your needs(?) did.

Moving is right up there, near the top of the list of some of life's most stressful experiences, along with marriage, close family death, and similar events.

I recommend that you take the time during the course of moving to have some family fun/enjoyment, not thinking about the moving details (trips to a zoo, museum or a big Cabela's store, for example).

Due to housing crisis, good deals on homes are available, even under replacement costs. and I do not expect this to last long.

Yes, it does have a very nice shed, the size of two of my garages. Plus a lot more land.

i

About same distance.

It was a combination of many things: low house prices, my (moderate) inflation expectations, reasonable interest rates etc.

Plus it has a big shed and more land.

yep

This is a good idea, I am not that kind of person, but I will try to do it.

i

I've moved 40 times, not counting stuff like from

97th General barracks to Dornigheim or Merrell Barracks to Langwasser Sued. Same mailing address, so I don't count them even though there certainly was packing up of "stuff" and physically moving it. Sure, moving is more stressful than a regular routine, but I can absolutely assure you that moving isn't even on the same scale with marriage and death.

Yep, changing duty stations, even internationally.. BTDT although I was about 40 years younger then.. and pre-arranged transport, a duffle plus carry-on isn't moving IMO, either.

Stress is what it is.. I've seen interviews with people who's pets have been killed, completely hysterical (needing sedation).. and wanting some serious revenge, and sometimes getting it.

It seems as though moving was a regular routine, Steve, well before the 40th move.

Wel, the future will tell. I am not looking to make a quick buck. But I know that good things happen when one buys things at below replacement costs.

This is a great point. Many things that happen, are such that almost no one expects them.

This would, more or less, follow unemployment rate.

I am not trying to be a global pundit and try to consider every worldwide interdepencency of interest rates, central banks, and conflicts in oil countries. I just try to go by price and see if a price offers a margin of safety when buying.

I was gung ho on stocks for the last two years. After they had such a great run and became much pricier, I no longer consider them to be as safe as I thought about then when they were cheap. Meanwhile, real estate continued to get cheaper.

I would also hate to lose my savings due to inflation, and I think that homes/land offer a good degree of inflation protection, with much less risk than kooky stuff like gold.

These were some of the reasons that our family thought about.

Plus the shed

i

Can you park a 20 foot container in your driveway? Packing stuff slowly yourself is far less hassle (and offers some opportunity to clean up and organize) than packing (or paying people to pack) stuff in a hurry.

My limited experiences with "movers" have made me wish to keep them very limited indeed - like never again if at all possible. On the other hand, my local riggers are delightful, and get machines moved with minimum fuss for a very reasonable cost.

Congratulations. Bigger shop and more land sound great.

I, for one, will be looking forward to a play-by-play narrative of your adventure.

Thanks. Lots of things to do now.

i

Since you are now planning to move anyway, and given the latest attacks on gun owners in your current state, I'd give serious consideration to making your move to a different state.

A you pack it type of move is definitely preferable for anyone with "unusual" items like large tools. A "full service" mover will charge a lot to handle stuff they aren't familiar with.

I'm not sure how Iggy's neighbors would like a 20' container in his driveway, though if it's only for a week or two he may be ok. One of the consumer oriented "PODS" type of light duty containers would likely be more acceptable to the neighbors, though I'm not sure one could handle the weight of Iggy's mill or lathe.

Other you pack type moving options typically will park a regular semi trailer for a few days for you to pack it, which works fine if you can park it on street for that duration. Normal items can be loaded by hand truck and ramp, and big stuff like mills and lathes can be readily loaded using the services of a flatbed wrecker for an hour or two. I loaded (and unloaded) a 1T pickup and a forklift to/from a 53' semi this way with no issues.

If he has sufficient house overlap, he may do just as well doing the move himself with his covered trailer on a room by room or similarly logical basis. I did my previous move this way since the distance was ~15 miles and I had no time pressure and it worked well. My most recent move was 1,700 miles, so even though I still own property in my previous area, I had to move all the critical stuff in one shot in a u-pack type

53' semi, and then follow up moving other non critical stuff at my leisure.

Pete, this is actually a good point, as I would like to be in a gun friendly state, but at this point it does not seem practical.

i

Pete, I think that what we'll do is, I will pack my tools and parts myself. The movers will pack most of household stuff. I will get a rigger to move the mill.

i

Iggy's had some pretty "unusual" things in his driveway. I imagine his neighbors are pretty understanding. If not, then they c an think of the container as a step towards being rid of their interesting neighbor.

I've been to his house. I think he could sneak a 20' container up his driveway without it being intrusive. He ought to be able to get away with it.

Then you should visit my new house.

i