thoughts on Logan lathes?

I looked at an 11" Logan floor model lathe today. My normal lathe is a 9" South Bend. In some ways I was surprised that the Logan didn't look that much beefier
than my SB. I may have an opportunity to acquire this machine, and there are a few things I like about it better than my South Bend - larger spindle bore, much longer tailstock ram travel, 16 speeds vs. 12, V belt vs. flat.
I'm curious if anyone has any particular input about the 11" Logans. No steady or follower, probably hard to find.
GWE
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I liked my 10" Logan quite a bit (this is a machine comparable to your 9" SB). Logans are nice lathes. A larger spindle bore is extremely useful, as you no doubt have many examples of.
Logan is still in business selling parts for their lathes. Scott Logan is a contributor on this newsgroup, though I haven't noticed him lately. I'd think you could find accessories, lots of Logans out there.
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Grant Erwin wrote:

I like my 10" a lot . Has all the precision I can use ... but then I'm not a machinist .
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:11:35 -0700, Grant Erwin

I may be a bit biased, so I won't comment. Oh, what the heck, sure I will...
Comparison from old sales literature. These are comparisons on the 10" Logan, and mentioned elsewhere, the 11" has a larger spindle bore, and is available with a longer bed. I believe the "Competitor" is the South Bend 9". And for the record, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the South Bend, it is a very good lathe.
            Logan        Competitor Swing over bed        10-1/2"        9-1/4" Swing over Saddle    6-1/8"        5-1/2" Between Centers        24"        22"         Power Feed Reverses    Wrenches required         w/ a self clamping    No positive stop         position lever Threads            46, 4-216    45, 4-160 Face width of        7/16"        3/8" Change Gears Bed width        6-15/16"    5-15/16" Bed Length        43-1/8"        42" Ways            2V & 2 Flat    3V & 1 Flat          Spindle mounted on    Spindle mounted on          Ball Bearings    Cast Iron Bearing                     w/ Pinch adjustment Hole through spindle    25/32"        3/4" Face Plate Dia        6"        5-1/8" Spindle Speeds        12, 30-1450    12, 41-1270         Back Gears enclosed    Back Gears and control         in headstock w/ control    in back of headstock         in front of headstock         Reversing Switch    Switch or Motor Control         included in price    extra charge Cross Slide Travel    6-1/4"        5-7/8"         Cross Slide Screw has    Screw has steel to steel         self-lubricating    bearing w/oil hole         bearing Tailstock Spindle    2-3/8"        2-1/8" Travel Countershaft    Improved, patented    Standard countershaft         Logan design Threading Dial        Furnished    Not furnished, extra cost Motor            1/2 HP        1/3 or 1/2 HP Shipping Weight        400 lbs        370 lbs

Not really. Stock items here, and also often found from used machinery dealers or eBay.
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:^) :^)

Snip comparisons...
If I understand it correctly, the logan 10" is analogous to the SB 9" machine.
And the 10L SB equates to the (larger?) 11 Logan. Both are 5C capable machines.
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wrote:

Actually, more like the "10-K", but that is very similar to the 9".

Yes, probably a fair comparison.
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:11:35 -0700, Grant Erwin

Grant..in my opinon..shrug..the Logan 11 is twice the machine as a SB 9.
Beefier, stronger, more versitile. I like them.
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Grant Erwin writes:

I'm fond of my quaint specimen, a Logan model 1957, which is 11x36, but since getting a (shudder) modern Chinese 12x36, I am loathe to admit that I don't use the Logan that much.
Make sure that you check not only the bed wear, but things like the spindle bearings that should be smooth and have no play. You can have a pristine bed on an old machine but be stuck with brinneled bearings.
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Richard J Kinch wrote:

Well, wouldn't you just then replace the spindle bearings?
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I thought somebody here went through that in the past - wasn't there a problem getting the special bearings, they were a bit tricky to set up I thought.
Jim
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Standard quality double row ball bearing runs over $50, the next level up is in the $150 range. Changeout is a half hour job.
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RoyJ writes:

That's a happy prospect. Where would one find the procedure, parts specifications, and sources for parts?
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Richard J Kinch wrote:

I'd call Scott Logan if I needed procedure or specs, and a bearing house once I had the specs.
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once you buy the lathe, you send some money to Scott Logan and you get a manual and parts list by return mail. That answers the procedure part. You will also get a price list that may include the bearings. A good bearing supply house can be very helpful in providing bearins as well

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:11:35 -0700, Grant Erwin

Good Morning Grant I have an 11" mod 922, built in 1952. I'm not doing production work but for what I do it is a joy to use. Mine is not a floor mod, has a tray and legs, so the motor is behind the headstock not below. The larger spindle bore is great. The 5C collets, as you know, make life easier <g>. If the one you're looking at isn't badly worn I think you'll like it. FWIW I paid around $1100 for mine with a nice set of tooling. If you can get the serial number (usually stamped on the bed, tailstock end, between the flat and the 'V') you can determine it's age on www.loganact.com . Hope this helps. Bob rgentry_at_oz_dot_net _AT_ = @, _dot_ = . to eMail
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That's the problem. It's a model 1922, legs, tray etc. I offered around what you said but they are in love with the thing and want quite a bit more. Hadda pass, but they did say if nobody bit after a couple weeks they'd call.
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