Totally OT- You COULD be a REDNECK HILLBILLY CRACKER but interesting <G>

Subject: You COULD be a REDNECK HILLBILLY CRACKER

> >From: "kyrustic" snipped-for-privacy@qx.nt > >Many words commonly used in America today have their origins in our Scottish >roots. While the following three terms are associated today with the >American South and southern culture, their origins are distinctly Scottish >and Ulster-Scottish (Scots-Irish), and date to the mass immigration of >Scottish Lowland and Ulster Presbyterians to America during the 1700's. > >HILLBILLY > >The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in >Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled >"Scots-Irish") settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their >traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and >ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King >James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690. > >Supporters of King William were known as "Orangemen" and "Billy Boys" and >their North American counterparts were soon referred to as "hill-billies". >It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers >football club today begins with the line, "Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy >Boys!" and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, >"Marching Through Georgia". > >Stories abound of American National Guard units from Southern states being >met upon disembarking in Britain during the First and Second World Wars with >the tune, much to their displeasure! One of these stories comes from Colonel >Ward Schrantz, a noted historian, Carthage Missouri native, and veteran of >the Mexican Border Campaign, as well as the First and Second World Wars, >documented a story where the US Army's 30th Division, made up of National >Guard units from Georgia, North and South Carolina and Tennessee arrived in >the United Kingdom."a waiting British band broke into welcoming American >music, and the soldiery, even the 118th Field Artillery and the 105 Medical >Battalion from Georgia, broke into laughter. > >The excellence of intent and the ignorance of the origins of the American >music being equally obvious. The welcoming tune was "Marching Through >Georgia." > > REDNECK > >The origins of this term are Scottish and refer to supporters of the >National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or "Covenanters", >largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster >(Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters >of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the >Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of >England as its official state church. > >Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth >around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term "Red neck", which >became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed >by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in >Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red clerical collar -- is this symbolic of >the "rednecks"? > >Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the South) were >Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern >descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when >an author noted that "red-neck" was a "name bestowed upon the >Presbyterians." It makes you wonder if the originators of the ever-present >"redneck" joke are aware of the term's origins? > >*Another term for Presbyterians in Ireland was a "Blackmouth". Members of >the Church of Ireland (Anglicans) used this as a slur, referring to the fact >that one could tell a Presbyterian by the black stains around his mouth from >eating blackberries while at secret, illegal Presbyterian Church Services in >the countryside. > >CRACKER > >Another Ulster-Scot term, a "cracker" was a person who talked and boasted, >and "craic" (Crack) is a term still used in Scotland and Ireland to describe >"talking", chat or conversation in a social sense ("Let's go down to the pub >and have a craic"; "what's the craic"). The term, first used to describe a >southerner of Ulster-Scottish background, later became a nickname for any >white southerner, especially those who were uneducated. > >And while not an exclusively Southern term, but rather referring in general >to all Americans, the origins of this word are related to the other three. > >GRINGO > >Often used in Latin America to refer to people from the United States, >"gringo" also has a Scottish connection. The term originates from the >Mexican War (1846-1848), when American Soldiers would sing Robert Burns's >"Green Grow the Rashes, O!", or the very popular song "Green Grows the >Laurel" (or lilacs) while serving in Mexico, thus inspiring the locals to >refer to the Yankees as "gringos", or "green-grows". The song "Green Grows >the Laurel" refers to several periods in Scottish and Ulster-Scottish >history; Jacobites might "change the green laurel for the "bonnets so blue" >of the exiled Stewart monarchs of Scotland during the Jacobite Rebellions of >the late 1600's - early 1700's. Scottish Lowlanders and Ulster Presbyterians >would change the green laurel of James II in 1690 for the "Orange and Blue" >of William of Orange, and later on, many of these Ulstermen would immigrate >to America, and thus "change the green laurel for the red, white and blue." > >Sources > >Adamson, Ian. The Ulster People: Ancient, Medieval and Modern. Bangor, >Northern Ireland: Petani Press, 1991. > >Bruce, Duncan. The Mark of the Scots: Their Astonishing Contributions to >History, Science, Democracy, Literature and the Arts. Secaucus, New Jersey: >Birch Lane Press, 1997. > >Fischer, David Hackett. Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America. >Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1989. > >McWhiney, Grady. Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South. Tuscaloosa: >University of Alabama Press, 1988. > >Personal Interview, Mr. Bill Carr, Ayrshire native and member, Celtic >Society of the Ozarks, January 2001. > >Stevenson, James A.C. SCOOR-OOT: A Dictionary of SCOTS Words and Phrases in >Current Use. London: The Athlone Press, 1989. > >Walsh, Frank, and the 12th Louisiana String Band. Songs of the Celtic South >album, 1991.

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Gunner
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That was the first usefull post I have seen from you in quite some time.

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Glenn Ashmore

I thought the *real* definition was anyone who had their wife say "Honey, could you please take that transmission out of the bathtub so I can take a shower?"

Jim

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Karl Vorwerk

That's those wussy flat landers.

With hillbillies, it's the husband that asks the wife to move the tranny.

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Offbreed

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