Ah. Control panel has a "services" option - go in there & see what is still running. Should be clearly identified. Odd that it's doing that, though.
I guess that's another reason I switched to Mac and Linux then.
Well, when you try removing Norton you'll find exactly the same sort of problems.
If you have good regedit instructions from a reputable source, it's pretty hard to screw up. Just double-check what you're doing, and close is _not_ good enough on the tags.
How about Norton Internet Security?
Yes, RA is a PITA to get rid of, almost as bad as some spyware. It's funny, what you're describing for McAfee vs. Norton is exactly opposite of my experience with both. Probably worth stipulating that they both suck in varying ways?
Harry Are we speaking of the same software? I have not had the same results you speak of. My McAfee gave me advance notice prior to the end of the one-year support period. Since I wanted to continue, I simply paid for another year without a hitch.
You can change the setup of the firewall to notify you of attacks as well as software wanting to access the internet. Whenever I load something that wants to access the internet a dialog box opens up and waits for me to tell it to allow it or not.
Did you notice what I'm running it on? ;) But yes, I think I may stick with OpenBSD, at least for internet-facing boxes. The /usr/ports works very well, security is damn good, and it's just another flavor of Unix.
I have a habit of making hardware do unusual things. For years, I was running Redhat on an Ultra-5, just because. With almost 100 Solaris boxes now at work, why would I want _another_ one for my home stuff, just because that's what it shipped with?
That said, the SGIs are running the abomination known as IRIX, and I actually have an intel box that runs Windows, somewhere, sometimes. I should probably boot it up and see if it still runs.
You can try running a program called "hijackthis" which lets you edit your DLL files and delete stuff that most other programs will not. However, it is a powerful program that will cripple windows if not used properly.
Want me to eMail it to you? Just shoot me a private eMail.
Dave, when you say: "Systems I support for others", I'll bet you said quite an understated mouthfull. I can just imagine! I have had a few small-business customers that I have done all their IT needs for the past 20 years on the side and I no longer will do home systems for ANY of them or ANY friends, I tell them to go to Dell or such. I can't charge enough money to support (24-7-life) them with the inevitable...and they won't listen or learn. I'll bet you have similar stories.
Good point Joe, I did forget to warn that "Hijackthis, easycleaner and Bartpe" can get you into deep doodoo, 'kinda like a gorilla with a machinegun, but powerfull tools in the right hands. My usual advice for gunked-up computers is: Format c:/u...it's often faster than going on a bug-hunt.
Well, there's the official stuff I do, which is 100-ish Unix boxes of various types in various states, and then there's the "friends and family plan" support which is invariably anti-spyware and anti-virus work. Lately, I've been taking the "So...what exactly do you use your PC for" approach when people ask about new machines, and have had several folks buy a Mac rather than a new PC. Those support calls then go to "How do I do (esoteric function)" rather than "Why is my computer b0rken again?", so it's a win for all concerned.
That's the thing. Doing it for pay isn't gonna happen. In my area, I'd be lucky to get $25.00/hour for the work, and quite frankly, I'd rather be spending time with the family than fixing the same virus on yet another windows box. For friends & family, sure, that's different; feed me (good) beer for as long as the fix takes and we'll do fine.
Plus, once you help someone, they think they have a free tech support number for eternity. Nope, sorry, "I'd love to work more on this but I'm awfully busy with my computer-fixing business that I'm getting started" is a good phrase. Even if it's not strictly true.
It's like people wanting me to make a batch of things in the shop. One or two? Sure. Come on over and we'll do it together. Batch of 30, by Tuesday? Well, I know a guy with a job-shop, here's his card... please tell him I sent you...
I've run into this, there's a couple of routes you can go. There's a maintenance console you can install, boots up an independant command line interface where you can delete files and such that would normally be busy. If you catch things at the right time, you can boot that up from the CD, or you can install it before you need it. There's some gotchas with the maintenance console having to do with permissions, MS has it well documented on their support site. Second way to go is put in a maintenance install of XP(or whatever), preferably on another drive. You can do it on the same drive if you don't have another, you just have to make the Windows install folder a different name than the default. You can modify the boot.ini file on the C: drive so that the different installs have different names, you'll have to change the read-only attribute first. Anyway, once you have a second install, you can boot to that, make any deletions or changes you want to the first system's install directory. If you install Symantec or other AV tool after that, it should be able to handle the deletions on the infected files, they won't be busy. You can also edit the other install's registry using the regedt32 by attaching to the different hives, there's some stuff out on the web on how to do that if you want to get that sophisticated. I've had to do this a few times after picking up new stuff that the AV software didn't catch right then. I always put one bare-bones install in addition to the regular one on any XP or W2K machine I work on these days.
Exactly -- but one which was put together by people who care about security. :-)
At least one of my machines is still running SunOs 4.1.4. -- but it is doing so on a quad Ross CPU. (Two CPUs per board, on a SS-10.) Since Sun claimed the driving need for Solaris was to run multiple CPUs, I particularly enjoy running that combination. (And Solaris *won't* run on those Ross CPUs -- because they don't have cache. :-)
Back when I was working, there were more security alerts for SGIs than for any other flavor of unix -- by at least a factor of three. :-)
Have they gotten any better? They used to make a too much userland stuff suid, without properly vetting it for security holes.
I've got one. I need it for two things:
1) The annual income tax software run.
2) To run PhotoShop Elements, to run a plugin to convert images from the odd conversion of a Nikon N90s film camera to digital for the AP. There seems to be nothing else to deal with those, yet, though there are now open source programs for converting a lot of other camera's proprietary RAW formats to things easier to work with.
And that Windows box is very carefully set up so it *can't* reach the outside net, or receive any eMail. :-)
AdAware has a damn good reputation for good reason, and you're doing it a disservice by claiming that it's installing spyware. Back it up, or retract.
The obvious answer would be that you have AdAware (from lavasoft) confused with a similarly named product, which is the goal of the people naming their software something _like_ AdAware. Please go check your facts and tell us where you screwed up.
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