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Well, I got my Jones & Shioman 540 grinder into the workshop this
week, after a lot of planning. I have lost count of the number of
people I spoke to about moving it, but the upshot was that anyone with
the right kit to move it (hiab, etc) wanted £150 - £200 to move it.
Fair enough I supose, everyone has to make a living -but too expensive
for "hobby" use. In the end I got a courier I knew to move it in a
Mercedes Sprinter van (it just went in after I removed the metal cover
on top -about 1" to spare). When he got it to my house I'd arranged a
forklift truck to get it out from the local plant hire company.
Fortunately there is one about half a mile away, but it still cost me
£40 to get it unloaded. Simple operation though, it was one of the
all-terain forklifts you see on building sites and they have a reach
of about 3M -so he was able to put it in the garage from outside.
Then I borrowed a pallate truck from them to shuffle it where I wanted
it. All I have to do now is lift it off the pallate -but there is no
rush, I can work on it just as easily on or off it.
Moral of this story? -if buying something big (and what isn't?) make
sure you can move it BEFORE committing to buy it
Regards
Kevin
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Kevin Steele
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Been there.....so I know the feeling So I built one of these.. full story here..
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lots of fun.
welcome to the world of jones and shipmam btw you will find jones and shipman themselves are best on prices for spares. all the best...mark
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mark
Yes, I'd taken a look at that. I have a lifting gantry, but due to the height of the grinder it was not possible to do that easily. If I had not been able to get the forklift I would have hired a trailer and done something similar -I was working on a lifting method that picked it up lower down, bringing "hook level" to just over the table height.
It was also suggested to me that there are car trailers available that are very low down, and I could have taken it on/off the trailer on a pallat truck -but none of the local trailer hire companies had one of them for hire.
Regards
Kevin
PS Is the pantagraph arrangement on the side of your grinder some sort of diaform type attachment?
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Kevin Steele
Yes that's a Diaform not had any cause to use it yet though...or delve into understanding it. mine also has power rise and fall , automatic down feed and 0=2E00005" adjustments on the main wheel. The machine was a terrable mess when I bought it.....covered in dulux's best paint..........but underneath was a gem of a machine accurate to within 2 microns over 8 inches. faults that came with it... that I fixed were :- both starter contactors were burned out....fixed up a treat made possible by my kind friend Ken Widdall donating new contactors the 'orable paint....blasted strait off with a pressure washer.revealing almost pristine original paint underneath......just had to respray a few bad areas. Leaky rams......bought new ram seals and piston ring set from j&s about =A320. gave it a good service ....oil tank cleaned out .......and that was it........ all the best...mark
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mark
With a bit of luck, Ebay willing , , I'll be coming up the motorway later this week with 1 ton crane on board.
Do you want me to pop in ? -- Regards,
John Stevenson Nottingham, England.
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John Stevenson
Thanks John, but it's in now. All I have to do is get the pallate from under it at some time. I have a 1t hoist and a lifting gantry -the heignt is just a bit tricky. The lifting gantry is built to the max height I can fit under the rafters in the workshop, but doesn't have much clearance over the top of the machine. I might end up using the hoist to make sure it can't fall over and getting a big bar under it to lever it onto the floor.
Regards
Kevin
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Kevin Steele
Chisel out the wood of the pallet around the jack bolt holes, put long hex-head screws in the jack bolt holes and jack it up. Use your weapon of choice to destroy/remove the pallet. If there is not enough room to get a long bolt in all the jack bolt holes (there isn't at the rear of a 1400 because the vertical feed mechanism gets in the way) then use a drilled and tapped bit of plate under one of the bolting-down slots for the screw.
Just one suggestion, may not be the best.
Mark Rand (who's been moving bloody great RSJs with a similar technique today) RTFM
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Mark Rand
That's a good idea, maybe a lot easier than trying to lift it clear of the pallate to pull it out, and definately better than burning the wooden pallate from under it (OK, I wasn't very serious when I considered that one -but you have to consider all the options )
Regards
Kevin
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Kevin Steele
I was unfortunate enough to be involved in a very serious accident with an A frame a couple of years ago and ended up on the HSE accident investigation panel. Please be aware that a A frame with a non-powered or free trolley is far more dangerous than powered. Example - If your drive is not level, and you raise the load, it then runs to the lowest end - at unrestrained speed - hits into the end stop and overturns about the END A frame. The one we had was about 4m long and only 2m high and spun over just like that - you would not believe it unless you saw it. The young girl it crushed lived - just - but has horrific injuries to lower body/legs - it still makes me sad every time I see / use the damn things. Be careful out there. Dave PS I also have been moving a 540 lately...and yes they are heavier than they appear...
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Dave Brook
I never got round to designing a trolley for it. I didnt see any need for one ..works just fine as it is. all the best.mark
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mark
I have a gantry, it has three interchangeable cross beams, but I have put the longest beam over my rafters it just lift a machine when the headroom was to low for the job.
Could you arrange a hoisting point with a hefty steel section of some sort,,, You might even be able to borrow something suitable,, :-)
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Jonathan Barnes

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