Left hand taps, dies

I would like to be able to make this sort of thing:

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The essence is a threaded rod, L/H for 1 half, and R/H on the other half. When the rod is turned, the jaws open or close.

You can buy kits:

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But where's the fun in that.

I would also like to be able to make one of these:

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as seen in the upper one of these:
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So - anyone know a source of left hand taps and dies.

Any size between 1/4" and 3/8" should work metric coarse, or BSW or something like that

But prices I've found so far are horrendous.

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"Left Hand Taps + 200%. Left Hand Dies + 150%."

Tap-and-die box sets (or boxes, or buckets, or coffee tins) are cheap at auctions etcs. but don't contain L/H gear :-(

Anyone got any hints?

BugBear

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bugbear
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Make them on a lathe, I have made my own taps and dies from silver steel in the past, heat treatment is the key.

Joules

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Joules

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Someone will, no doubt, point you to Tracy Tools who supply any size LH at +200% but when you consider 100% is only a pound or two, it's not so expensive after all.

Alternatively, try

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who can sell you as much left hand allthread and as many left hand nuts as you need. All you have to do is to think of a way of connecting it/them to the corresponding RH item.

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John Montrose

I have not tried it but I have read that removing the thread crests from 2 opposite sides of a 4 flute tap or die will permit it to thread left or right handed. Makes sense as the opposite flutes are exactly one-half pitch apart in both right and left handed threads and the helix angle doesn't amount to much with a narrow flute. I think most small taps and dies have no clearance angle so they can be turned either way. Seems it might be a bit hard to get started but I think it will work. Don Young

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Don Young

It isn't necessary to use LH threads to make:

handles.

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briano

But paired LH/RH double the effective pitch. It also looks better, since the "waste" thread protrudes from both sides of the clamp, in a more symmetric fashion.

You're thinking about toolmakers clamps, I'd guess.

BugBear

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bugbear

No lathe :-(

BugBear

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bugbear

Eek! Their website is a disgrace, the more so for being made by a (supposed) specialist.

These web-technicalities aside, the only mention of LH threads is on the main page, and on their sets page.

No mention of prices for single taps/dies that I could find.

I'd rather do the mixed thread thing if possible. But thanks for the pointer.

BugBear

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bugbear

Ask for their catalogue, it's a lot more comprehensive. Quite often, otherwise good firms have lousy websites.

Regards, Arthur G

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Arthur G

You'll find Tracy Tools very helpful on the 'phone

AWEM

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Andrew Mawson

Until quite recently they ran print adverts saying they didn't take credit cards - only cheques. I've used them a few times in the past but only when they were at one of the exhibitions. The fact they have

*any* web presence astonished me.
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Martin Evans

I bought some stuff from them a few years ago - but I've tried them a few times since when we've needed slightly non-standard taps or dies at work, J&L have always beaten them (quite severely) on price and delivery. J&L are often worth a call, even if they don't list it they will usually be able to get it -and often for the next day.

Regards

Kevin

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Kevin Steele

Their old web site was better, if not prettier. Unfortunately, small businesses who have to pay someone else to produce their sites can't always avoid morons using frontpage :-(.

ISTR their standard terms were/are HSS+100% LH+200%.

Mark Rand RTFM

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Mark Rand

Which soon starts to add up. I just bought two 30mm x 1.5 pitch taps, on list at £18.00 each but when you factor the HSS/GT in at 200% in their latest list, those two taps came to £75.00 inc postage.

When you consider that most suppliers J&L etc don't carry carbon taps any more this surcharge starts to get heavy.

I must admit they have got me out of the sh*te a few times on specials but note to self ask the price first. I have an account with Tracy and in the past I have had some good deals but times may be changing.

-- Regards,

John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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John Stevenson

I wonder if HSS/LH is +300% or +500%

(+100% is AKA x2 and +200% is AKA x3, so conceiveably HSS/LH could be x6 -eek!)

BugBear

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bugbear

Your quite right bugbear. I only had a very quick glance at

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and interpreted it that way.

Pairing a LH & RH thread would certainly make them prettier but the downside is you reduce the clamping force for a given pitch.

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briano

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