Royal Enfiedl Question

Yup thought it was something like that .

like the LPGA........ self proclaimed regulators of businesses converting cars to lpg.........trying desperately to be recognised by the government as a going concern ..while infact they do little to regulate bad conversions....but like taking =A3hundreds plus off the converters........and trying to convince the insurance companies that there is something special about their certificates

phoned another government dept quango up today ....call themselves Economic Development ...part of Denbighshire County Council .......40 staff !!!!...just for denbighshire the only economic development they are doing is amongst themselves by the looks of things !

all the best.markj

ISO9000 ( and the BS before it ) was never about quality. Ratners could continue producing 'crap' and still be fully certified - it was simply certified that they produced the same crap day in day out :)

The Australians seem to have spotted this and as I understand it, are looking more to 'quality' of products than to costly papertrails that lead noware useful :(

Dead right. The proper title is Quality Assurance. The stress is really on the Assurance, but people hear Quality and think that must be better - it ain't necessarily so!

Richard

I had an Ariel 350 'Red Hunter' and that never leaked oil but my Ducati

The Ariel had a dry sump while the Ducati had a wet sump. The difference between the oils at oil change had to be seen to be believed. The Ducatis was BLACK whilst the Ariel was clean. The Ariel was built in

I had an NH Ariel, first bike I ever bought, 'oil change' ?????? Seriously though folks, the Ariel had a crude form of centrifugal oil filter in the crankshaft. I hope you cleaned yours regularly, and remembered to take the spark plug cap off first. They had a nasty habit of firing when you turned the crank to get at the cup screwed into one of the flywheels. Ned Ludd

Neil Wrote:

guessing the Arial you had, was some years ago, before detergent oils came out..right

All the best.markj

Ariel biological detergent oils, right? ;-)

Regards, Tony

All very fine words; however, the point of what I (and others) wrote is that they are at the end of the day just empty words for the very reasons you state; the only words in the document that have teeth are the ones that lead directly to the "overly clerical application" that you allude to. The standard could have been written in such a way as to emphasize (and offer approaches/requirements for measuring) the worthy principles that you listed; the fact is that they weren't, hence the result is an utterly useless, and I would argue ultimately destructive, contribution to a world already overburdened with bureaucratic BS.

Regards, Tony

Seconded There is NOTHING enshrined in ISO9000 that provides a guide line to actually PRODUCE good quality products, only ensure that the processes are in place that can repeat the same mistakes time after time ;) There is actually no requirement to FIX the mistakes :(

That is the function of management. Dont shoot the messenger. The Indians are managing their quality; I never said that they had installed an ISO 9000, merely that the principles of quality management lurked therein.

Some people disconnected the battery thinking that would stop the spark but magnetos just don't care.

Not some - a great many.

Heck of a job to get it into the washing machine (if we had had one).

True they are and probably they have never heard of ISO 9000, last time I checked at the local Indian the menu topped out at 7756 items, nowhere close to 9000

John S.

Not half as much fun as air gunning the crankshaft pulley off a Rolls V12 Merlin and having it chase you down the shop That'll teach you to fit the grounding screws to the mags.

John S.