Workshop Heating

I wasn't looking at keeping it at 17 degrees or anything like that. I'd be more than happy if I could keep it at 5 or 6 degrees, which is bearable in small bursts, and then top it up with another heating source while I'm out there for any time (currently a fan heater, but infra red has been suggested as a better alternative). I find 8-10 degrees is OK to work in. I only have my office at work at 19 degrees, and I just sit at a desk in a short sleeved shirt. In the workshop I'm usually moving around in a long sleeved top.

Regards Kevin

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Not to go on lecturing ........ if you keep it at 8-10 then you heat it to 15 for brief periods.........you may get away with the condencation...........but still wondering how much it would cost to keep it at 8-10. only trial and error will yield the results. wish I was john stevenson and had a furniture factory close by. all the best...mark

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You don't need a furniture factory for what most people want you can get a couple of good nights running out of an old pallet. At the moment I'm getting packing pieces for a double glazing firm. These are nice pieces, a pity really to burn them. They are 3" x 2" planed and smoothed and about 30" long, just the right size to go straight in. They are used to protect to UPvC frames in the larger boxes. You only have to look around for waste wood.

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They can't even give it away for free round here. It's like it grows on trees or something. A glass company in High Wycombe carries an advert in the local paper every week to try and get people to come and break up and take away their wooden transportation frames. Probably cheaper to advertise constantly than pay skip charges all the time. Wish I had a wood burning stove in the house and another in the workshop. No room for one in either place though sadly.

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That's the truth Dave. The firm I getting it from at the moment used to have one of those big roll on roll off body skips, £160.00 a pop Problem was the drongo's would tip three big transport crates in the skip, get them wedged and fill up on top, result the skip was going out twice as often as it should and 1/2 empty. Now they stack them in the yard and usually on a Saturday dinner I go up, get the fork lift drive to ram them against the wall and throw the bits into the Donald, plus all the nice short loose bits. That last us all week and that's running this large stove in the workshop and a largish double doored one in the house. Central heating is off and on all day in spurts but goes off at 6.00pm and the stove takes over. Gert's responsible for stoking this and like most women it's flat out. From 6.30 till midnight you can fry eggs on any horizontal surface

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Hello John, snip

snip Just received a letter from npower that prices are going up in January :-( I have planned to put a pot-belly stove in the garage but am now thinking of one in the lounge. Have a proper chimmy, but don't know what size stove or how effective it will be in keeping bungalow warm. Does the heat from your stove circulate through the whole house?

Garage conversion is progressing, with shelves up on all walls, Now ready to convert the up and over door to swing type and gain all that extra space taken up by it. Yes I do have a hefty R clip ready to lock that evil looking spring before I take a spanner to things! Guy a my local builder's supply told me the sad story of a work mate who lost his life because he got careless and failed to notice how rusty the spring assembly he was working on had become. It collapsed and the spring did its gruesome business. The kind of story that makes one sit up and take notice. Regards Geoff

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My father was working on the suspension of a large Mercedes back in the summer time. He had a **large** spring off on the driver's side and was tensioning up a new one for re-fitting. With the clamps in the vice and the spring tensioned the whole lot popped from the vice, the spring escaped it's clamps and something hit him on the arm. (I don't quite believe the spring hit him as he took damage to the tune of a badly broken arm and a nasty little cut, I subscribe to the theory he reacted as it went pop and hit his arm on the bench).

He had to go under full anaesthetic to remove a piece of metal from the wound and his arm was in plaster for weeks..

Very lucky escape I say.

Those springs take the full weight of the car under braking I think, plus the weight the momentum creates as the brakes try to stop the motor.

Working on springs for a drawing board were enough for me. Springs, I love 'em but I hate 'em too!!

Regards

William

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When we first looked at this we had no fixed idea's and did a tour of local agents. Amongst the shysters was a gem in a firm called A E Peet near Melton, they gave what I felt was impartial advise. Whilst we were waiting to be seen I saw them talk a lady out of an expensive stove for a cheaper model on the grounds her choice was wrong for the situation.

They advised on the size of stove given the area to be heated, our is a bit weird as being an old Victorian house it's open plan downstairs with open arches into the hall. The result is the living room, which is nearly 28' x 28' is open to the hall stairs and landings [2], so it has to put some humph out.

We went with a Villager stove,

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out of a choice of about 4 or 5. No real reason, just liked it and the pricing was OK, We chose a model A flat wood, 14 kW on afterburner and heats up to about 200 cu m. Probably get 16 kW on napalm but it gets costly. Most of these can be fitted with boiler for central heating but where our is situated it would be a hard job to pipe into the existing system on the other side of the house.

Well pleased with it and aim to rip the gas fire out the office next year and fit a smaller version in there, probably go for a C wood at

5kW. One piece of advise is to steer clear of the Machine Mart rubbish and get one that's brick lined and also has double doors if possible. My brother has a single door model and he's forever having to saw wood to get it to fit in.

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Ouch. Vices are fine, but holding round items and applying all sorts of angular forces always make me cringe/shivver. Seen and had far too many near incidents/accidents.

Wish him a speedy recovery

More than you and he thinks. Anyone see that dipstick on Scrapheap Challenge? This &*^%$ (too litigious too spell out) undoing the nut holding the top spring keep on a Macpherson unit with absolutely no thought what so ever about the energy stored in the spring. The nut probably reached the last half turn and the whole lot let go. If his or anyones elses head had been in the way, they would have been a gonner. The force and velocity of the spring taking off, well . . . And the worst part was the look of surprise on his face! The Americans have a competition about who wins the Darwin award.

Whenever I worked on my racing car's suspension, I always used three spring clamps, but no idea if they would have held if the unit was dropped on floor.

Wonder how much enery is stored in a compressed car spring? Seeing that one take off, enough to take someones head off I think. Regards Geoff

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Don't remember seeing the stove when I collected the magazines, but then cost of heating was not an issue then as now, so wasn't taking much notice, . . . and your living room was still being 'renovated' :-) I do, however, remember that huge monster in the workshop.

Just downloaded the catalogue, and as luck would have it, we have a shop in the town that is an agent. The Puffin looks ideal for the garage, but will ask advise on lounge.

Why am I not in the least surprised at the mention of napalm!

Ah. Was looking at the pot belly from MM. Also one of their engine cranes. Time for a rethink. Just seen your spin indexer at Arc EuroTrading. Very nice, will be purchasing. Cheers Geoff

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Let's see.... spring rate about 25 N / mm free length 600mm, compressed length 300mm

Energy = 1/2 x 25,000 x ( 0.6-0.3 )^2 = 1125 J

This is about 1 / 600 Th the energy in a hand grenade :-)

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In article , John Stevenson writes

I can confirm this. I suspect that there's actually fusion going on in there.

It's amazing what you can get by burning Reliant bodies and HSE inspectors. You could grill a kipper at twenty paces.

Eww... Too much information. *WAY* too much information.

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I was using a set of coil spring compressors to change the shoc

absorber on a Ford many years ago. The combined unit was completely of the car. I just got the spring almost fully compressed and the shock ou when it "let go". All I can say is I'm glad it went in the opposit direction to me. I jest ye not, I recovered it from a garden six house down and it cleared a house to get there. I don't even want to thin about what would've happened had my body impeded it's flight. I appears that what happened was that one of the two compressors suddenl shifted nearer to the other (as apposed to being opposite) and th spring took off sideways

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Same as the springs in truck sping brake units. They hold the brakes on until air pressure releases them.

Held in the chambers by the lid which is retained by a 16swg circlip. Seen folks trying to get the circlip out "to see what's inside" They are about 9/16" -

5/8" thick steel spring material and 8" diameter approx.

Peter

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Now, that is dumb.

I knew what I was doing (I've done the same job many times befor without incident) and was being very careful but it still happened There's a moral in the story which I think is "let someone else ris life and limb on spring jobs" or use the type of compressors that can' shift

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