I am trying to make the new formats for my company (paper sizes from A4 to
A0) using the Empty with section option in the New format dialog box. I made
all sections for those formats in sketcher enviroment and have those
sections saved on disk But, the problem apears with new format size after
using section diferent then A3. The format size is allways A3 regardless of
the section size. The question is: Is there any parametar which could
control the size of newly created format with Empty with section option
used. Has enyone expirienced this problem before?
In my opinion, size of the section outline sould control the format size..
but actualy Pro/E doesn' t work on this way.
I am using Wildfire.
Thanks for any help,
: Hi all,
: I am trying to make the new formats for my company (paper sizes from A4 to
: A0) using the Empty with section option in the New format dialog box. I made
: all sections for those formats in sketcher enviroment and have those
: sections saved on disk But, the problem apears with new format size after
: using section diferent then A3. The format size is allways A3 regardless of
: the section size.
This is one of the ways you should be able to do it. But since you are having
trouble, may I suggest a way to check out your sections, just to see if there
might be a problem with them. First, forget the 'Empty with section' option and
just create the format from the 'Empty' option. Select a format size for which
have a section. Click OK, then, from the menu bar, select 'Insert>Shared data'
select the appropriate section drawing. If it is the correct size for the format,
it should place with no problem. If there is some kind of size problem, it will
inform you that the section does not fit in the format and ask you if you want to
scale it. If you get this with any section besides A3, there is some other
problem, possibly the section itself or a problem with units conversion or a
default format file in another system of units. Also, check draft_scale in
config.pro options, set to between .75 and .9, then try to insert the section
Other things to check:
* Check the units in the file referred to in format_setup_file; make sure
consistent with units in part, section and drawing. Threre is no end to problems
form conflicting units settings because Pro/e does not understand translating
units unless you tell it to, i.e., 'Setup>Units';
* Set draft_scale in this setup file between .8 to .9 which applies only to
* Remember that outside border of format is paper size (portrait orientation,
A4=210 X 297
A3=297 X 420
A2=420 X 594
A1=594 X 841
A0= 841 X 1189
Notice that the long side becomes the short side in the next larger format while
the short side doubles. The section drawings must be smaller than paper size,
generally inside a printing margin, to be placed properly. (I'm sure someone out
there can explain why the aspect ratio (h/w) stays about .707 for all of them.)
An alternative is to create the format 'empty' but of a definite size, then to
draft the outline, using the 'Sketch' and 'Edit' functions built into the format
editor. These are adequate to the task of drawing borders and boxes. And, if you
turn on 'Parametric' sketching and 'chain' lines, you can create your formats
fair ease. There is the added advantage of sketcher preferences which allow
snapping by a variety of constraints and a sketch grid, available under
'View>Draft grid'. The interface allows you to turn the grid on or off, set
spacing, origin, etc. With sketcher preferences, you have a nice imitation of
graph paper and grid-type snap-to points. Add to that, 'Edit>Trim', 'Transform'
and a couple other tools under 'Edit', and you have a nice little format drawing
package. I really think that drawing right on the format is unbeatable.