Prebuilt bot

I am looking for a robot similar to the garcia from acroname which is prebuilt allowing me to focus upon the programming side of robotics more so
than the hardware construction problems. Anyone have any references besides the garcia?
TIA
Jeff
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: I am looking for a robot similar to the garcia from acroname which is : prebuilt allowing me to focus upon the programming side of robotics more so : than the hardware construction problems. Anyone have any references besides : the garcia?
The Garcia is a pretty "top shelf" robot, I've seen it in operation and it is pretty darn cool - Wireless network, yaddayadda... Provided that money is of little consideration, you can also check out http://www.arrickrobotics.com and the trilobyte robot and http://www.k-team.com and the Khepera and Koala, or heck, the little Hemmison which is very cool, very small and very expandable.
Since you were looking at Garcia, I'm assuming that you are interested in bots in the $1000+ range. The Hemmison isn't that much though. The Arrick robots are in the USA, the K-Team robots are Swiss.
There are no doubt others, these are just the ones that I know about. You can Google for "educational robot" to find more I'll bet.
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For pre-built I second the K-Team Hemmison. I have been looking at one for the past two months, and it's very well put together. The body is made of multiple levels of thick foam.
Another pre-built worthy of attention is the X-Bot from Netmedia/BasicX. Cost is $250, and comes with a BX-24 chip.
-- Gordon Author: Constructing Robot Bases (Forthcoming) Robot Builder's Sourcebook, Robot Builder's Bonanza
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You might consider one of the robot bases from Budget Robotics (http://www.budgetrobotics.com/)
I have one of their Scooter Bots and it worked like a charm. It is *extremely* easy to build.
Polydroids (http://www.polydroids.com /) also has bases for sale.
You can get one of the many controller boards available. I like the JStik from Systronix (http://www.jstik.com /) because I can program it directly in Java. I did have to create an I/O board for it, but as soon as it's tested, I will post the schematic and board files (Eagle). Olimex shipped it earlier this week, so I probabably won't get it for another several days. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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so
besides
http://www.lynxmotion.com makes quite a variety of cool prebuilt kits too. For a little extra, send them your blueprints and they manufacture the parts/frame for you. I bought their Carpet Rover and am quite happy with that. But, i initially made a poor choice on controller type. Although BS2 is cool and easy, its very limiting. For total freedom PC platform in form of Mini-ITX would be the best, perhaps assisted by couple of peripheral PICs or AVRs.
-kert
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prebuilt. I thought prebuilt means assembled ?
mini itx. whats the power use like ? especially running on batteries ?
Th budgetrobotics rigel kit is also really really easy to get going. Got the base completely built in under an hour.
For controllers
avr mavaric or mavaric 2 or m128 from www.bdmicro.com are really nice. easy to use. Great off batteries.
For when you need lots of pwm have a look at the servopod from www.newmicros.com http://www.newmicros.com/cgi-bin/store/order.cgi?form=prod_detail&part=ServoPod
That centipede (remote controlled bot) in october nuts and volts mag uses a minipod in each segment.minipod http://www.newmicros.com/cgi-bin/store/order.cgi?form=prod_detail&part=MiniPod Some movies of it here. http://www.nutsvolts.com/toc_Pages/TOC_Related_Info/Oct03_Robotics.htm
Just subscribed to their new Servo magazine which was their robotics supplements. http://www.servomagazine.com/About.php
Alex
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Alex Gibson wrote:
True, but I find a kit that is trivial to build pretty close. And generally *much* cheaper.

Generally the Mini-ITX boards are low-powered. However, I'm trying to wait for the next generation (the nano-itx boards) to come out. They will use less power and and be generally smaller.

Yes. I find almost any of the Budget Robotics bases nice.
However, I just ordered the treaded base from PolyDroids because the base is biggen than any of Gorden's offerings. And for experimental robots I prefer a base which is bigger than necessary.
I like the Systronix products for robotic controllers. The JStik running all out (100 MHz) uses about 1/2 A at 3.3V. And they run Java natively. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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D. Jay Newman wrote:

That's nice to hear.

The Polydroid tank indeed looks nice.
As an FYI, a "secret" new kit that I am readying is Carina*, a larger treaded base that measures 11.5" long, 7" wide, and 6.75" high. It's an "invertible" tank base, which means if it comes up to a wall, it will roll up it, inverts, and travels back the other way. It's powered by two Hitec HS-700 servos (modified) so there's no need for an H-bridge. The endless rubber tracks are 1/8" thick and 1-1/4" wide.
I am still running the base through its paces, but I can share an image of the prototype:
http://www.budgetrobotics.com/images/carina.jpg
(*It's named Carina, after the star, which itself means the keel of the ship Argo. The keel is the essential structure of the ship that keep everything else together, and is generally the first thing made when building a new vessel.)
-- Gordon Author: Constructing Robot Bases (Forthcoming) Robot Builder's Sourcebook, Robot Builder's Bonanza
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Gordon McComb wrote:

Forgot to mention these are the big quarter scale servos.
-- Gordon Author: Constructing Robot Bases (Forthcoming) Robot Builder's Sourcebook, Robot Builder's Bonanza
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:13:27PM -0800, Gordon McComb wrote:

Looks great!
And based on my previous experience with your kits, I know it will be superb.
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Gordon McComb wrote:

Too bad I hadn't heard about it last week. I may just take a look at it when you get it done.
Incidentally, what are you using for treads, if you don't mind me asking?

And this too I am eagerly awaiting. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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yes but what current draw etc. what battery packs.
the via nano itx look quite good but from what I've seen they still require around the same as a laptop. and power use will be higher as everything has to be done in software.
via nano itx 12cm by 12cm( 4.7 by 4.7 inch) http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3008673708.html
http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/nano-itx.jpg
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7542683131.html
only nasty thing is via have droped rs232 from the new ones.
pentium4 http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS8129391258.html
Had a look at the new philips arm chips ? 128k of 128 bit wide flash with 16/32/64KB of ram 44 pin, 60 MHz LQFP48
look good. http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/LPC2104.html http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/cgi-bin/pldb/pip/lpc2104bbd48.html http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/usermauals/UM_LPC2106_2105_2104_1.pdf www.lpc2100.com Leon has done a prototype board http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html should be powerful enough for using a jvm or gcj may give a bit more speed.
Alex
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wrote in message

We will have a board supporting one early next year.
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