C-130 in the latest issue of FineScale Modeler Magazine

I think it's an incredibly well-built and detailed model spoiled by a poorly-conceived finish. But that's just my opinion and if the builder is happy with it more power to him.

That said, while it didn't get my Peoples' Choice vote I might well have voted with the judges in its contest category. Interesting dilemma, isn't it?

-- snippage ---

It's a fantastic model but the panel lines are over-emphasized, in my opinion. He did what scores points at the shows; black panel lines are popular. I also don't want to belittle his effort in any way at all. It's a fabulous, fabulous model. I just would have done the panel lines differently.

Reminds me of when I brought my brother to a show. He confronted an expert modeler and asked him why his panel lines were black when they wouldn't be on the prototype. Of course, I was mortified... but the expert, unshaken, said "it's what the judges like". Talk about Kodak moment.

--- Tontoni

It's a drag queen as far as finish goes. It looks like a 3-D version of a rendered architectural drawing. Nice build, horrid over application of makeup.

Second time around for this thread. I did not comment on the first time around, but this time I have to put my 2 cents into the kitty.

Peteski, you said it very well in that the modeler took artistic license with this kit. The way I figure it, he bought it with his money, his paints, and used his art to build and paint it. So who are we to say that and what he wanted to do is inappropriate. There are so many more models out there that look like crap and they walk off with first place. At least this modeler has the ability to build an excellent model and used the paints - air brush - in a manner that many of us only dream of.

Think of model ship builders of old, depending on where they spent most of their time at sea was how they depicted and detailed the ship they built. Some ships had oversized sails, so where did they spend their time. While others had oversized hulls, guns, decks, etc. It is a matter of perspective, and he who owns the kit does what he wants with it. That brings to my mind one of the past contest here in Austin, one of the car club guys decided to NASCARize a German Panther tank. The armor guys were not too thrilled when they saw the sacrilege done on one of their subjects, and moved the Number 24 tank out of the armor section into the miscellaneous. Not too much tolerance shown there.

Soap box mode off.

Ray Austin, TX ===

Under IPMS rules markings determine category and a Panther in NASCAR markings does not go in military armor. It could very well be the judges moved it to the best fit category based on its markings.

I imagine that many great trends start off in the miscellanous column. If it catches on more people follow and it grows to a point that it becomes it's own category or field of interest. Recall the lines that have been drawn over diorama vs static display, OOB vs tricked out, open turret vs closed turret, yada yada yada.

Given all that, I'd be REALLY surprised to see NASCAR markings on 1/35th armor sweep thru the clubs anytime soon as the hottest new thing. Now NFL markings, yeah... ;-)

About that C-130 - is that the one that was posted on here a few months ago and discussed a little? If it's the same one, yeah, beautiful build - but overdone panel lines to the nth order.

WmB

It kinda makes me wonder (because I have never attended one of those IPMS events, do they add or deduct points for panty lines on all those new Japanese Girlie Models? (:>

It's very Verlinden.

Tom

I remember the 1/48 B-32 from a few years ago. ISTR the builder used

1/72 B--36, 1/48 B-24 & B-29 parts to build it, yet it was considered a conversion of the 1/72 B-36, not a scratchbuild. I feel that is way out of line.

It is an incredibly well-built and well-detailed model.

That being said, when I saw it in Atlanta this summer, I had the same impression of over-done panel lines. They appear even darker in person than they do in FSM. It is legitimate criticism.

However, I have never nor will I ever approach the quality of construction and the depth of committment that the model represents.

Art

(snip)

I wouldn't characterize it at criticism - more of an observation. That said, I agree and there was some talk in Atlanta among other folks I met that it was indeed overdone. I feel it's well overdone and a cursory look at Hercules images in a quick Google search will show truer appearances.

Again, I concur but the rest of the model was top-notch. Stunningly top-notch. In 1/72nd, the model is still big but it's still 1/72nd to me - kudos to Mr. Voitech. I wish I had the ability to do similar work in 1/48th as I have five Italeri Herky kits to build... I know, I know... Don't say it...

Frank Kranick

"Stephen Tontoni" wrote

And all the guts are hanging out. (Re: a previous thread about what wins at IPMS shows)

KL

I haven't seen the cover in question yet but I have seen C-130s up close and not a lot of panel lines stand out. Most of the ones I've seen are big smooth grey birds of the Pa. ANG based at Harrisburg.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Not just that - it was the quality of the work that won the award, and I agree.

I agree with the judges' decision but that model didn't get my People's Choice vote, nor would any with a similar finish.

Like I sais - I'm not an aircraft (or military) expert. I hang out more with the automotive model crowd. But I do learn lots of techniques from reading FSM, this newsgroup and other non car related sites.

But that C-130 just just didn't look right to me. And it looks like it wasn't just me. But if we chalk this to "artistic license" - so be it.

I like that NASCAR tank idea! Too bad that the military show circuit does not take lightly to such ventures. This hobby is supposed to be fun, ain't it?

Couple of years ago I built a model of a "Dung Beetle", which was a combination of a Heller's model of an insect and a 1:43 scale VW Beetle. It won the Most Humorous award in a local model car show. Maybe car guys are more forgiving ...

BTW, I din't realize that this subject was already discussed here. I should have searched the archives...

Peteski

The NASCAR tank got put in one of two categories it belonged in per IPMS rules.....miscellaneous or humorous, it did not and never will belong in the miltary AFV category. Although if you car guys have a NASCAR category it might fit there...........

Or that Egyptian Air Force C-130 that shows up at the cargo terminal at Baltimore-Washington International regularly. Gorgeous desert camo and very smooth.

Bill Shuey

A few years ago one of our local guys did the then new Tamiya tank transporter and a British MBT in Spice Girls paint scheme.

Brought out many a chuckle.

Tom

Yes, while there isn't a specific NASCAR category, we have several sports and race categories where it coudl be entered. :-)

Peteski