I was under the impression this was a modeling newsgroup.I guess this is the
political newsgroup.Why can't you stick to the topic and go find a newgroup
that wants to hear about politics?
My brain is like lightning......One big flash and it's gone
Well.....I did try and say that earlier but got flamed for doing so but I
agree with you.
so to the rest of you lot who flamed me POLITICS ON POLITICS NG NOT ON
HERE...!!!...& BOLLOCKS TO THOSE OF U WHO DON'T LIKE IT
Mark.
I couldn't agree more, but this newsgroup actually isn't nearly as bad
as some others I frequent. Just fine tune your killfile and you should
reduce the problem dramatically.
Sir....our hobby deals with subjects of a historical nature...and "politics"
is a major aspect of those historical periods. For example, the frequent
threads regarding the presence (or lack thereof) of swastikas in decal
sheets...is a *political* topic! It is impossible to separate our hobby
from politics. It is not like we are in the hobby of collecting chewing gum
wrappers.
I have swastikas by the shed load here...how many do you want...??? I am
waiting for local council bods to jump out and say I cannot drive my Panzer
through their car parks...it has a swastika on on the flag on one it's
aerials.
It's called History and real-life ...it happened so get the f*ck and get
real...!!!
That doesn't explain the bazillion threads about the US presidential
election, Arafat's death, etc. ad nauseam, none of which have anything
to do with modelling whatsoever. They're just flamefests.
Hello Mike. This issue has been covered numerous times here on RMS. This is a
newsgroup about scale models. However, it's also a newsgroup for scale
modelers.
It might help if you think of it as a virtual hobby shop. In a hobby shop,
there are plenty of model kits to look at and talk about. However, you can
also find clusters of modelers gathered around involved in discussion. Ofter
that discussion is model related. however, other times it is not and could be
about other subjects that interest modelers; such as current events and
politics.
If you are in a a hobby shop and you walk up on a discussion that doesn't
interest you, you just don't participate and you walk away. It's the same
here. You can't stop people from talking about things that interest them, even
non-model related subjects. If you come across a thread that doesn't interest
you, simply "walk away" by not opening and reading it. It's not hard. Many
posters include the letters "OT" in the subject line of off-topic posts to warn
readers. Other off topic posts can be determined to be so just by the subject
line itself, such as the currently popular one "Arafat dies...."
In this environment of free speech, the onus is on you to read or not read what
you want. Most newsgroup readers have the capability to block threadw with a
particular subject line and you can do that. In that way, if you can't trust
yourself not to open threads you don't want to read, you can block them so you
won't even see them and the temptation won't be there. You can also block
particular posters whose ideas and subject matter you may not like.
It's quite a simple concept, really. Give it a try.
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Well, Mark, as I just mentioned in a post to Mike, RMS is like a virtual hobby
shop. In an actual hobby shop you will find groups of modelers gathered to
discuss modeling related issues. You will also find them discussing other,
non-modeling related issues that interest them. It's the same here on RMS.
That's just the way it is in a free speech environment.
As I mentioned to Mike, most of the time you can clearly identify a particular
topic as off the topic of modeling related issues by the subject line. The
onus is on you, the reader, to have the self-control not to open and read
topics that you don't want to read. If you can't trust yourself not to open
such posts, block the subkect line or the particular poster or posters that
seem to annoy you. It ain't rocket science.
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You sound like an unpleasant man. I think I will exercise my right to freedom
of association and block you now. G'day, mate.
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Harro: Yes it does. I've discussed the issue of off-topic posts in two posts
I just made and I believe I may have discussed this with you in direct response
to an earlier comment you made (but perhaps not).
At any rate, look back to my posts to Mike Maze and Mark Stevens. I really
don't want to have to go over this yet a third time today.
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"Bill Woodier" wrote
Or a newspaper or magazine. It is the rare person who reads every single ad
and article in either. Whatever mechanism allows the reader to handle paper
media would also work here.
Also, examine the motivation for being upset about non-modeling stuff.
Remember that a) It's free, b) The presence of OT does not mean an
equivalent amount of good modeling info was displaced, and c) It's free.
One can legitimately say that the OT stuff impedes finding the modeling
stuff. However, is it _really_ that hard to pick the wheat from the chaff
by scanning the headers?
I've found that when people have real modeling questions the questions get
answered. More aggravating to me than OT glop is when somebody asks "Does
the Tamiya F4F Wildcat have weighted tires?" and people answer "I always
liked the Corsair better", "I never use weighted tires", "The Hasegawa kit
has them.", "I built the Monogram Wildcat as a kid", and "I wish Tamiya had
made a F4F-1 rather than an F4F-3"; and all their response end with: "Sorry,
can't help you with the tires."
KL
1/10th Scale Panzer V AUSF G.... Twin electric motors and full R/C.
And in reply to Bill Woodier......I am a pleasant chap really...it just gets
my goat with the PC Brigade trying to shut things out as if they never
really existed, they'll be banning Rememberance Parades next because it
glorifies war or some other stupid reason. They seem to forget people
actually fought and died for our freedom....and that should never be
forgotten.
Regards.........Mark
I don't open them and I don't read them.It's just getting to be a pain in the
butt wading through them to get to something interesting.
Since I'm a car modeler,I don't find a lot interesting anyway.But I respect the
right of anyone to model what they want.
Any kind of modeling can provide tips for other kinds of modeling.I don't care
at all about Arafat dying,or who Bush is killing this week.I'm just looking
for modeling tips and stories,reviews,and the like.
My brain is like lightning......One big flash and it's gone
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