Mach 2 C-54/DC-4-In Box Review

Picked up the new Mach 2 C-54/DC-4 at Berkeley Ace Hardware a week ago.

Having had nothing but bad experiences with Mach 2 kits in the past I approached it with some trepidation. It turned out to be a very pleasant experience.

Dry fitting the parts I found the fuselage halves to be a pretty good fit. As is often the case with many large models, there is a bit of a bow at the mid-point, but it looks like simple glue-then-rubber-bands should do the trick. Surface details are recessed and very fine. There were a couple of surface problems that appear to be rectifilable with light sanding. As with almost all of the parts in the kit there is a minute amount of flash. Fuselage doors have to be cut out and there is a replacement door provided. Three of the windows for the DC-4 variant are flashed over and have to be opened for that variant. There is a seperate nose cone for some variants.

The cockpit consists of an aft bulkhead (which doubles as an aft bulkhead for the nose gear bay), a floor with central console, instrument panel cowl, instrument panel with recessed instruent faces, two seats and two control yokes. Detail is a little heavy for the seats and yokes, but they can barely be seen. There is no cabin interior whatsoever. The cockpit windscreen is incorporated in a single part including the appropriate part of the fuselage. It's a good pattern for a vacuform part as it's so milky that it's opaque. The cabin windows and astrodome are just as bad with a couple of ripples marring some of the parts. Kristal Klear or white glue should suffice for the windows and the astrodome can be done with a vacuform part.

Wings are as good as the fuselage, maybe better as there are no flaws and the fit is very nice. Undercarriage bays are seperate parts with nice detailing. Landing gear legs look a little clunky, but should clean up nicely. Wheels and tires are done in halves and include nice detailing. All gear doors are a bit thick, but they also have interior detail.

The wings fitted almost perfectly with a very small amount of trimming. The wing roots will take some filling, but no more than most large kits. Engine cowlings consist of two halves with a central core and two part engines of pretty good detail. Two different sets of exhaust stubs are provided and need to be hollowed out. The props are useless. The angles at the attachment to the hub vary and one blade is quite a bit shorter than than the other two. Four identical, useless props are provided. Replacement from the spares box or aftermarket parts are required. Horizontal stabilizers are very nice and are done in halves. Fit is good. One stabilizer has a drop of plastic in the middle that can be easilly trimed off and cleaned up.

Small detail parts such as the df loop football and various antennae are OK. The smallest antennae are too thick, but they make excellent patterns for cutting from thin sheet styrene.

Instructions are very brief, but most questions as to placement are illustrated. Decals are on target, needing to be cut out carefully from the overall coating. White parts are printed seperately. There are markings for a Pan American Clipper (the cargo doors should be changed to a single passenger door for this variant), an US Navy Operation Deep Freeze bird and an USAF Berlin Air Lift C-54. There is an illustration and mention on the box side for a RAF 1945 aircraft, but only the serial number is given, no roundels or fin flashes. Decals W3 appear to be the white background for the roundels.

All in all this is a decent kit, at least dry fitting the parts, of a long awaited subject. It is certainly the best kit ever produced by Mach 2.

Tom Young MAI/ESM 72

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Maiesm72
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Thanks for the review Tom, maybe this one is a worthwhile purchase. Brian

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Brian McCarron

Probably obvious, but the total lack of cabin interior and spartan cockpit interior just cry out for detailing and after market sets. The nice thing is that the undercarriage bays are detailed enough to allow the builder more time and effort in the interior if he/she wishes.

The technical advances in this kit are obvious. Look at the mass of carefully placed ejection pin marks on the fuselage halves. That's the ain reason that the parts fit. The lack of any locating pins and holes is irritating, but no big deal.

Now, let's hear from someone who has built this beast.

Tom

Tom

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Maiesm72

Tom,

I rarely do AC as ships are my thing but I spent several years working and flying on a C54 and would love to do a model of one for the memories

- both good and bad. For $98 it damned well better have LOTS of detail! I paid less than that for my Heller HMS Victory, and she's 41" long, has 2107 pieces and 300 yards of rigging to do, on the model!

Having ranted for a moment, OOC, how long is the fuselage and whats the the wingspan in the Mach2 kit?

Grandpa

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Grandpa

You're comparing apples and oranges. Heller is a mainstream manufacturer while Mach 2 is a small limited production outfit. Heller sells hundreds of kits by the thousands while Mach 2 is probably lucky to sell each of its few kits in the hundreds.

The DC-4 was 93' 5" long with a wingspan of 117' 6" so a 1/72 scale model should be about 15.6" long with about a 19.6" wingspan. It's probably safe to assume that even Mach 2 wouldn't be very far off from that.....

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Al Superczynski

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Hub & Diane Plott

From what I've seen (the Mach 2 PBM in particular) and based on Tom's review of the C-54, I'd say Mach 2 is not improving, but has plateaued. The defects he describes in the C-54 are essentially identical to the similarly-sized PBM model of about eighteen months ago, which, apart from transparencies, seems to be pretty good. What gets me is the inability of Mach 2 to either figure out how to make better injected clear parts, or (perhaps even simpler) to go to vacuformed transparencies. At these prices, horrible transparencies are unacceptable, because they are the hardest parts to scratch-build. Yeah, sure, I know, vacuform them yourself. (A) I don't have a vacuform machine (B) I don't want to track down someone who does locally every time this happens and beg them to do me a favor, and (C) thermaforming with butyrate sheets is an extra expense and an extra hassle and is (frankly) the least likely to generate good parts itself. At $90+ for a kit, I'm not interested in jumping through that hoop, even though the subject is very desirable.

Incidentally, it is not safe to assume anything regarding accuracy with Mach 2 kits, as I have learned by close examination of some of their specimens. As it happens, the PBM measured out well, and one may hope the same is true for the C-54, but I'm sure not going to assume it.

Mark Schynert

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Mark Schynert

The point is that Mr.Mach2 is firmly convinced to produce top quality products that are unimprovable. Otherwise he doesn't even read any kit review of his products. I am still sanding and shaping that damned C-123 canopy to obtain a master and vacuform something that looks almost vaguely like the real thing. Not to tell the rest of the scratchbuilding needed to reach acceptable shapes and contours.

At $90 for such a kit I'd rather prefer that it would have never been issued. Forget that the master have been evidently obtained by converting roughly the Heller DC-6. I think about the possible cost of molding such a coarse object. By sure, no steel metal molds, no high pressure injectors. Here the same technique is used for cheap kid's easter eggs surprises :-( and Mr.Mach2 is the sole person happy to sell every single piece of his pricy crap. Further, insistent rumors were that Revell of Germany was considering to issue a C-54 in the recent future. Applause! Mach2 has simply "burned" the subject with his mediocre replica. Bravo! Bravo! One should now hope and wait ten years to have a real kit finally issued, and at a reasonable and realistic price, as happened with the Atlantic.

Open a Heller kit, get a good documentation of the C-54, then see the Mach2 kit and make up your mind. I'm not a rivet-counter and am sorry for Tom's positive opinion, but that kit is an offence to another American top notch subject like the C-54.

Stop the massacre!

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Luca Beato

If you mean how many kits and models I can't speak for 1/48, but the current count for 1/72 scale is 12,971 with more added daily. That's just aircraft without repeating re-packaged kits such as Airfix/MPC. After market stuff and other subjects such as artillery, vehicles, figures, etc number in the thousands.

No other scale comes within a galaxy of being close.

Tom

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Maiesm72

as the kids say around here...daaaammmnnnnnnnnn! i can't see 5000 1/48. so we're doomed and should just build, forget collecting?

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Bill, you're off by a decade. The Airfix kit came out around 1969. I built mine and liked it. I don't have the Revell for comparison, though.

Bill Banaszak, MFE

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Mad-Modeller

Yea! That's the ticket. :-)

Tom

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Maiesm72

This may have already been stated, but what about the Heller version? I have one in my stash somwhere that looks nice in the box. I bought it years ago maybe back during the mid-1970s.

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

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The Old Timer

ok, where's that gluuuuuuuuuueeeee...whhhhoooooo?

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Heller issued a prototype Atlantic in 1:100 scale and an early series - "1ere generation" - in 1:200 scale or so. Being a purist as a kit modeler and collector, I consider both of them out of topic here. The talk was about 1:72 kits like the Mach2 and the Revell.

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R-G's big kit explosion is recent. If the rumor that they were considering a DC-4 is true, it's hard to believe Mach 2 will deter them at all. Of course, they may never have intended to do a DC-4 in the first place, because it's not German, in which case the argument about Mach 2 becomes irrelevant. So am I going to wait ten years? Who knows? I wouldn't get around to building a DC-4/C-54 for at least 2-3 years anyway, maybe longer--it's a very desirable subject, but I have a lot of those. Maybe that's why I can't take the false urgency thing too seriously--every manufacturer in the hobby could collapse tomorrow, and I'd still go to my grave with hundreds of unbuilts. The really important kits right now will take me something like four years to build at current progress rates, and there are always new things coming along that may jump the queue. So if R-G takes until 2014 to issue a DC-4 in

1/72, and I'm still building, I'll likely be there to buy it.

Mark Schynert

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Mark Schynert

Then? You mean that I should be quiet and happy in presence of a 90$ box of French crap labelled "C-54". Let me disagree.

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Luca Beato

No, I mean to say you should be happy with nothing, as will I, since neither you nor I consider the Mach 2 kit to be worth the price. As for quiet, come now, I'm half Italian myself, I know better...

Mark Schynert

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Mark Schynert

If anything would inspire a German firm to do a C-54 it would be the aircraft's participation in the Berlin Airlift. The C-54 was a mainstay of the effort.

Bill Shuey

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William H. Shuey

Ciao Mark. The rumors about R-G's interest on the C-54 are based upon the particular popularity of this subject right in Germany, due to the Berlin air lift and revived by a beautiful example that was restored in flying conditions some years ago. Having a glance at the Airlinermodelling list on Yahoo Groups, while looking for more details, it is remarkable how just French modellers and some hobby retailer were happy for the gloomy and pricy Mach2 kit.

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