If it has a Scale on the Box for the Thing that I am Building. Then I
guess that I'm doing Scale Modeling Too ........ LOL
I think I would use a different term here
I think I would say it is an ''Accurately Reproduced Miniature'' to
better depict that it's an exact replica of a real thing
- I'll agree with that...and that's a big part of why I don't do
contests. Accuracy don't count for much
I guess any kind of a Sci-fi -or- Fantasy Modeling just doesn't count
because of the fact there's no way to actually verify any reference or
data to a proto-type or
any item already in use out in the field;
- Uh...not really, as I see things. But I also see that type of
modeling as more creative and artistic. I've tried it and can't do it
well even though I can design jewelry. I can repect fantasy builders
when they do good work just like anyone else.
Heck - That goe and lets out nearly Half the Stuff that I really like to
Build -- LOL
- Again, I doubt that.
If you LooK Real Close at the Opel Blitz that I Built that is in my
Web-Page you might find a Dozen or so things that are wrong or Not up to
''Snuff'' as they say
But you would be very Hard Pressed to say that it wasn't a Good Modeling
It's in here if you wanna take a LooK :)
My Main Page with My Models and INFO
... Carl ..........
- And that's the bottom line. The Growler I was looking at had way
more flaws than just the AIM-9's...most likely starting with the kit itself.
What I'm seeing is that radio control has become far cheaper while
plastic modeling has become far and away more expensive since I was a
kid - I've done both. Kids like stuff that moves and interacts, and
R/C, slot cars, and model rocketry are on the same level or expense...so
they're choosing something different. At least that's the way I see it.
Actually, the facts and accuracy count for a lot more than one would
think on a professional level, and even I never really considered that
for years. I started building kits at the age of four, and the adults
(primarily my grandfather) always took the time to make sure I not only
new how to build, but just what it was that I was building and where it
came from. It wasn't until I got to high school and started building
armor that I started really paying attention to detail and accuracy.
And that directly influenced my career choice...my old boss used to hate
me saying "I only work to support my hobby", but it's essentially true.
I had an interview with Northrop once where the interviewer was more
interested in my modeling skills and background than my degree, and said
he preferred to hire builders because "they know where stuff goes". I
had a test pilot stop me in the middle of a discourse and ask how in the
hell I knew so much about airplanes and how they went together without
ever being in the service - I told him I built models. And I was told
directly by the founder that everyone in the employ of Scaled Composites
was a model builder because if you came forward with an idea, you better
be able to build it yourself. And to my own surprise, when my family
visited the NASM in DC about a month or so after it opened...my mother
was walking around with my aunt, rattling off the names of the planes on
sight. When my aunt asked how she even knew what an Me 109 was, she
replied - "because I think we have one at home"...that was her first
realization that I wasn't just "playing with toy airplanes".
So, for me modeling is both a hobby and an education, and I try to make
it a point to pass that along. It teaches stuff - all sorts of stuff.
Motor skills, technical skills, history, technical diversity, artistry,
aesthetics, composition, creativity...and that's just scratching the
surface. So that's why I like to "get it right"...and my interpretation
of "getting it right" is pretty broad and variate.
But trust me - if you build something I walk past every day and take
"artistic license" with it, I'll tell you about it. And laugh at you.
A lot. So will quite a few other folks I know.
what's the furniture company, the famous one really popular now for it's
50's-60's? i'm going out of my mind trying to remember. their factory is on
main and has that pedestrian covered walkway over the street to join 2
buildings that is almost a trademark of new england? stickley was
earlier....damn, it's driving me nuts. i have one of the red died wood dining
sets and sideboard in storage. AAAHHH!!!
I wish more people would say so...and yeah, I agree with the point about
craftsmanship, except when it lacks; like when someone is learning. In
that case you point out the errors so the next one will be better.
I've been to a lot of contests where accuracy seems to be the last thing
the judges look for. Since most of the builders I know actually work on
the real thing, there's a LOT of accuracy experts on hand that don't
usually judge. So I don't do contests, even though I took a first in
the only one I've ever entered. I'd prefer attending a "convention" and
open discourse to a contest any day...I'd build for that.
I get to be farly creative and reactive on my job, but I really only
think of it as an extension of my hobby(s). I build to learn about
things or machines I don't see at work...sometimes I'll hack together
something from a paper study that never gets built - like my canarded
F/A-18, or my "production" STOL F-15"F". But mostly I find I can carry
what I learn building to work, and not vise versa. If I didn't have to
go to work, I'd build more...a LOT more. Found that out during my LOA
...all I want is the right ords in the right place...who you blow up
widdem is yo' biz.
BTW - my fav shop in Chi-ville is going the R/C / rockets / slots route
I described elsewhere. But at least they're still open, and seem to be
doing great biz.
I won't be of much help there, I was still in diapers when we moved south -
ironically enough, to a town within an hour or so of the acknowledge
furniture capitol of the world - High Point NC.
If my Dad was still with us he'd cough up the name in an instant - he was
Fitchburg born and bred. He'd tell you the name of every store or factory,
the precise locatin and rattle off three people that worked at each.
I gave a shout to my Mom, she's a Leominster girl herself - she remembers an
upscale store called Kidder and Davis. She says that would have been way
back in the 40s though. Mom also said Gardner Mass as she recalls was the
real hotbed for furniture.
As for Google - it says the store on Main is Harper Furniture. Butler
Furniture on airport road.
that sucks wind but they will probably be able to survive.
while i understand yo finicky bits, i also accept a bit of slop in what is,
essentially a hobby and recreation to most.
i've seen your work, it's awesome and correct. that's why i'll hide mine when
you finally visit.
face it, rufus, we want a custom fit in an off the rack world. sometimes a bit
loose is the way it is.
One day, around 1970-73, a P2V Neptune flew over Jamestown heading
One of the odder types of planes that landed here around the same time
were three TBF Avenger torpedo bombers that had been converted into
First they buzzed the town, and boy, was seeing those unexpected.
I was trying to do the math on that, particularly when it comes to tank
I think the dollar is worth around 1/3- 1/4 what it was back around
1960, and you used to be able to get a Monogram M-60 for around $2.50.
Extrapolating from that, a entry level tank kit should cost around $8.00
to $10.00 now.
That's nowhere near the case, and even a 21st Century Toys tank will set
you back around $14.00 at Walmart.
So kids have been priced out of the hobby.
Neat story; thanks for that! :-)
Those electric RC aircraft have made a big dent in the hobby. Once all
the mess and noise of internal combustion engines is taken off the RC
aircraft, they become very salable items, particularly given the low
cost of modern electronics.
That's sort of why I build...I get a custom result. But that's only one
of many many reasons, really.
I think the shop will do just fine - they're only following the market,
and I can't fault them for that. If I lived back there I'd probably
ditch plastic models for slot cars myself...they've got a great
selection of 1/32 slots, and even a public track in the basement, I
think. I've always been a fan of large scale slot racers. I'd also let
them drag me into electric R/C.
I still get surprised when I see an F-117...dunno why, but I never
expect those. We see lots of stuff out here - from Mig-15s to Hunters
to Fouga Meisters to P-51s...even had a Sea Fury divert to the base on
an emergency as he was returning from Reno once.
Between Mojave, Scaled Composites, Reno Air Races, the guys at Chino,
local rich boys toys, and the military (US and visiting) So Cal is like
grand central for airplanes...and the weather is fantastic for flying.
Yeah, that's really my take on it...I'm amazed at what you can get a
decent four or even six channel R/C rig for these days - about the price
of a going 1/32 kit. If it's a choice between a 1/32 F-105 that sits
there or an ARF kit with a radio system I can actually fly, I'd opt to
spend my kid-bux on the flyer, if I have them to spend.
Even car kits - used to be a about a $2 thing you could get the money
for from mowing lawns...now the advertisers and corporations have them
up there in the range of the slot cars - again, a choice between
something I can interact with or something that sits there.
Between the price points and the net age getting kids more inclined to
be interactive geeks, I see the static model hobby on an eventual and
unavoidable decline...much like skilled craftsmanship in industry.
Yeah, and they're also in the fast or pre-built category now. I was
always a better R/C builder than R/C flier...but now that skill's being
lost too. Or maybe the tech is just evolving.
Then there's the new fad for high power rockets - this shop also caters
to that crowd. We have some full scale energetics engineers that are
into it out here, and there's tons of room to loft such without risk of
hurting anyone or damaging property, but back there...I'm a bit surprised.
In 2006, $2.50 from 1960 is worth:
$17.02 using the Consumer Price Index
$13.85 using the GDP deflator
$0.00 using the value of consumer bundle
$20.22 using the unskilled wage
$37.78 using the nominal GDP per capita
$62.66 using the relative share of GDP
The consumer price index is probably the best measure to use. There
are plenty of 1:72 scale revell and dragon armor kits and dozens of 1:24
and 1:25 car kits at my local hobby store for under $17. Raise the bar
to $20 and I'd definitely say kids aren't priced out of the hobby.