Re: RoG

So much for knowing what you're talking about. In Germany & many other European countries, it's illegal to display the swastika. Not really RoG's choice. The Amercan Indian symbol is a mirror image of the swastika, & IIRC, generally seen vertical/horizontal, as opposed to at an angle. Now, whether or not the European laws object to THAT symbol, because it does look kinda-sorta like a swastika.....

Someone once told me that it was like the folks that use an upside-down cross, or that a pentagram has the point facing down unstead of up (as in a five-pointed star).

What is unusual is the fact that such wide scattered and isolated cultures used that symbol.

Ah, well, of to finish my model of the UFO......

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

Since most modelers must have the aftermarket decal sheet for any model they are currently building, is this really an issue anymore? I have had Swastika decals for years to use in case a manufacturer did not or could not include them. Any serious modeler of German equiptment should have such a sheet in their stash. Revell AG brings you a huge nicely detailed U-Boat for two Jeffersons and you look down on them for no decal. Historical accuracy be damned because for forty bucks I will supply the deleted Hakenkruz. Maybe if they priced it like a Trumpeter kit would have been priced then yeah gripe away because for a Buck Fitty the freakin thing should be there. For forty then... Let it go and enjoy the fine kit! Cheers, Max Bryant

I bet if you drew one and ebayed it you'd have your answer fairly quickly. ;-)

WmB

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There was an early Christian sect that did use the inverted cross, eventually hunted down as heretics, because they believed Jesus was crucified inverted. IIRC tis is a St. Andrew's cross. The romans used inverted crucifixtion if they wanted the victim to live longer and suffer more.

No, St. Andrew, patron saint of Scotland, was crucified on a diagonally-aligned cross. It's the white part of the Union Flag, and the Scottish flag, the Saltire.

The Cross of St. Andrew is an X, not an inverted cross. I believe the Scotish flag has a Cross of St. Andrew (white) on a blue field. Which was incorporated into the British Union Jack (flag of union).

One of the apostles was crucified upside-down (Peter or Paul??), supposedly as a mockery of Jesus' crucifixion. That was a regular cross: T-shaped, but head-down.

Reputedly, that's how St. Peter was crucified.

Bill Shuey

No, the Saint Andrew's Cross is a large "X" shape. Saint Peter, by tradition, was hung upside-down because he claimed he was unworthy to die like Christ.

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

IIRC, the eBay idoits did just that a year or so ago. Someone was selling an Indian artifact or something with that symbol on it & they pulled it because it violated their swastika policy!

....escaping to Witch Mountain.... :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE

By tradition it was St. Peter and he asked to be done that way. He felt unworthy to be crucified in the same manner as Jesus.

Bill Banaszak, MFE

Don't you mean two Hamiltons? Jefferson is on the two dollar bill. Two of those would only be $4 and that would be a major deal wouldn't it?

Kurt Kunze

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was that george or wheezy? i get those large bills mixed up.

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Max B

As far as I know, it's only in Germany it illegal, some other contries don't really wellcome it, but don't forbid it.

Do they even MAKE $2.00 bills any more?

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger