Soviet Subs

You'll need to convert it to English or ID your sub with the appropriate number. It's in Russian BTW..

Mitch

Just curious but which kit are you building. I'm almost finished with a Revell Germany 1/400 and was disappointed with the inaccuracy of the kit, which I am not up to correcting skill wise. Just looking for a better one.

Scott

At present, there are no really accurate kits of the Typhoon (Akula) class. The stern is totally wrong. There is no big central stern diving planes, rather there are two smaller ones abaft the propellers, and the propellers are shrouded.

Tom Dougherty ( snipped-for-privacy@aol.com)

I have a color photo of the newly relaunched Project 941 (Typhoon) TK 208 (renamed Dmitri Donskoi). The color scheme is similar to US Navy submarine colors: Red from mid-hull down, and dull black from midhull up. It also shows the correct stern configuration for the 941 class, unlike the Dragon/DML kit sterns. Email if you would like a copy of the photo.

Tom Dougherty ( snipped-for-privacy@aol.com)

I have just uploaded a great photo of the rear end of a Typhoon to my 'miscellaneous' web page at:-

This shows the arrangement that Tom describes.....

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website -

I'm building the DML one from the 1980s. Not much to it, but it looks impressive. Gill

Thanks for the info. Now to get my wife to read the site to me. Gill

isn't the Akula an attack sub while the Typhoon is a boomer?

Sean Neilan Peace leads to strength. Strength leads to war. War leads to weakness. Weakness leads to peace.

Imagine what we will learn when people are not afraid to ask whatever they wish?- JH

If sense is so common, why do so few people have it?

Not in Russia :)

Akula (Typhoon) is large boomer, while Gepard (Akula) is attack boat.

It's what you get when NATO unknowingly names one class with the class name of another.

And the Russian word 'Akula' means Shark - as in 'Chernaya Akula' - Black Shark, the Kamov Ka-50 attack helicopter- called Hokum by NATO.

Gepard btw means Cheetah.

You still there ??

To Summarise...........

What the west calls the Typhoon class of boomers is known to the Russians as Project 941 'Akula'

Note that Akula is the PROJECT name - the boats do not appear to have been given names, my refs only list:-

TK-208 TK-202 TK-12 TK-13 TK-17 TK-20

What the west calls an Akula attack boat is known to the Russians as Project 971

- the lead boat (K-284) was actually called 'Akula' - the full list is :-

K-284 Akula (Shark) K-263 Delfin (Dolphin) K-322 Kashalot (Cachalot) K-391 Kit (Whale) K-331 Narval (Narwhal) K-419 Morzh (Walrus) K-152 Nerpa (Ringed Seal) K-480 Bars (Snow Leopard) K-317 Pantera (Panther) K-461 Volk (Wolf) K-329 Leopard (Leopard) K-154 Tigr (Tiger) K-157 Vepr (Wild Boar) K-335 Gepard (Cheetah) K-337 Kygyar (Cougar) K-333 Ris (Lynx)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website -

I'd never before heard the reference to Typhoon class subs as "Akula". I'm confused enough with the press referring to "Kursk class" (in reality Oscar III) submarines.

I wonder why the NATO codename was given after the lead boat (i.e. American style) instead of the usual military alphabet code for subs. Or did they run out of those already?

Now you're doing it again !

The west may call it an Oscar - the REALITY is that it is Project 949 'Granit' or

949A 'Antei'

The individual boats are all named after Russian cities - eg K-148 'Krasnodar', K-410 'Smolensk', K-141 'Kursk' etc The full list is about halfway down my model subs page at :-

Nowhere do the Russians call it an Oscar nor a 'Kursk class'.

Merry Christmas

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website -

TK-208 is now the Dmitri Donskoi. A post Soviet Union naming of the recently recomissioned TK-208. Three of the six Project 941boats are being scrapped, with the other three being rearmed and will continue in the Russian Navy.

Tom Dougherty ( snipped-for-privacy@aol.com)