Haas mill advice

m wrote in news:6dcf016c-b0f7-4296-9a72- snipped-for-privacy@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

If you can wait for the show, you can probably negotiate a better deal there.

It's hard to say what else you should look at without knowing what type of work/tolerances you do. In that price range you could certainly look at Fadal, Milltronics, Hurco, Sharp, and the low end offerings from Okuma, Mori, Mazak, etc..

Cliff wrote in news:begop4th0brdjru6qcotu5a9de00sgl8tm@

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Nope.

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Good resource.

Thank you,

-Martin

Thanks everyone for offering varied opinon and guidance on this matter. Today we closed the deal on our new VMC. This is what we got:

VF-3SS

12,000 RPM direct drive spindle 24 tool high-speed side-mount tool changer 1400ipm rapids USB 55 gallon coolant system Rigid tapping Chip conveyor Programmable coolant nozzle Wireless probing system Wireless toolsetting probe Work offset, Macros, Spindle orientation Coordinate rotation and scaling 16MB memory High speed machining with look-ahead 4th axis wiring and 210mm servo rotary table with tooling block Early power failure detection Auxiliary coolant filter 24 pull studs (CT40)

At the moment it looks like we might go for MasterCAM but a SolidCAM evaluation is pending next week.

Thanks again,

-Martin

Good choise as the base of the VS3 is the same as on as the larger VS4 &

1. Haas has been trying to "thin down" castings (some are even imports now btw). So you have the largest base by scale theoretically.

If your a Solidworks house, and have no cam history, look at the systems that run natively inside of SW. You will be MUCH better off down the road. Techsoft, HSMworks are two that come to mind. Ask your SW rep or Google. Mastercam and a couple others are now offering integration into Solidworks but unless they've changed their interface, you'll be sorely disappointed when switching between Cad and Cam.

-- Bill

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As a total newbie in that kind of machining (and i'm in R&D anyway), i've been following the conversation with great interrest. I'd like to have some explanations on a couple of things:

Does it means that there is some kind of device that prevents collisions when machining? How does it work?

What does it do, and how?

TIA JM

I just talked to haas about this the other day..

HSM enables the machine to look further ahead, so you get smoother tool paths with small movements (great for 3D surfacing) Also, it will adjust feedrates for a tool going into a corner (try to eliminate that damn chatter when putting a .5 em into a .25 R corner)

I'm in contact with haas to get me a trial run of that, The machine we got was a demo machine and they used up all the HSM time on it before we got it.. If I can prove that it is worth it, we'll buy it.

I would try to hack it, but by the time I figure that out, prolly be the same price.. lol