Ok guys and girls,
I was responsible for a drawing office for a factory who is making moulds for the hollow glass industry (jars bottles etc...).
the situation there is the following they use pro-engineer, autocad, a home made cad system running on a vax system, and the all mighty drawing board.
they have 3 drawing offices one in england one in the mothercompany and one in croatia. All to be run from the mothercompany. With no pdm system or erp system
All 3 design offices have different drawing styles and to make the whole completly unmanagable in uk there is one guy working on pro-e and 2 others on autocad so they can't interchange designs.
The offices are always overloaded.
For the ex pro-e guys here all the people didn't get any pro-e training. When i started there they didn't save any drawings and parts they where working with master parts and lousy automation full with bugs.
They are the second largest hollow glass mould maker in the world and are making 1500 moulds a week. So you see when you have a niche in the market you can be complete morons and still do good bussines.
I told them it was stupid way of working and that the offices would have to be on one standart and design system. I received the task to solve the problem but they couldn't understand all the fuss about.
i have done a benchmark with
catia ,pro-e, unigraphics, inventor,missler,solidworks
catia and solidworks where the winners
for me solidworks was the winner for the price, user friendliness and power
catia was just to powerfull and expensieve for what it needed to do and here in europe you have to pay a yearly fee or it stops working.
Pro-e tricked us on the benchmark in 50 percent of the cases it wouldn't work. I tried it myself.
Managment started to moan that the whole of the industry was switching to pro-e and why would we do different. I told him that it was jumping with all the sheep in the cliff and that our customers where struggling like hell to implement it one is busy for 2 years and i have still to see the first pro-e drawing.
I told them to sod it and started my own bussines with solidworks. With succes i halved the design time. They are sick of it to pay my fee because they know i do it fast and i charge the full price of it. i asked them where they can find same service at lower price and i will adapt my price. Quit a bit of fun for me.
Here is my question.
Now there is a guy there in charge but he is a bit to gentle so i want to pass him all the best arguments to kill pro-e because those buggers of managment will still stick to pro-e even after seeing the result in sw. You can say you crazy guy you will kill your own bussiness. I don't care i 'm making models of glass bottles and it is more profitable for me then designing and they won't go the sw way anyway. I just want that the guy warnes them that he have his back saved.
So if anyof you has good arguments pro-e contra sw
My arguments where
price customer service pro-e is dying wildfire is a mock-up failed the bench mark pro-e wasn't a succes in the past in the company c++ for heavy automation
it toke me 3 hours to model one of the most complex parts with sw with no course in pro-e it toke me 7 hours for the same part.
if you do not deal the complete package with all the options that you need at once (they will suck your blood when you need an extra option afterwards).
So if any has better arguments please let me know assembly's are max16 pieces. Also this story to make you all smile of disbelieve.
excuse me for grammar error i speak french.