That's been in UG for years. If it isn't parametric, which it isn't,
then it is no more powerful than the functionality SW has had for years
to edit SE files.
W> Can anyone shed any light on how to allow new client to read and adjust my
If it's the same technology that's in the last few versions of NX (it was
called DMX - don't know whether it still is) then it's extremely powerful
and can be used to make precise, re-editable modifications to what started
out as a dumb model.
I guess I am looking for an acceptable solution to read their SE files and
then produce a SW file they can read and edit. It looks like my post with
the direct edit link will allow me to do this. Read theirs, edit it and
send it back for them to read and edit ? Did I miss something ? TKS.
What is missing is a way to modify the feature tree and parametric
relations between any two CAD programs. You can manipulate the
geometry, but as soon as you do that you lose any linkage. Both SW and
SE at their core consist of a set of instructions created by the user
that define the geometry. Modifying the geometry does not modify the
instructions. Both can modify each other's geometry, but not each
other's instructions on how to get that geometry.
I am curious as to how complex these parts are that you have to shuttle
back and forth?
They are very very simple. This client also uses SWX 2005 also. I use
SWX2007. They need to dictate a small set of internal instructions and I do
the outside appearance.
For the life of me I dont get why they picked SE AND SWX. The final prodcut
of the work is a solid model of the outside, a final breadboard only of the
function ( very simple ). Looks like and a works like. Its a small
exchange of info between is and the mfgr.
2007 won't talk to 2005 of course. If they have FeatureWorks they could
process your parasolids into a parametric model. They can make a model
in 2005 and send it to you and you would have full parametric
capability that way. And if you haven't been with SW that long you
probably don't have a seat of 2005 sitting around. So my guess is that
you will be swapping parasolids. That isn't all bad as you have an
immutable reference of what you sent each other. But you won't have
parametric control over each others model either.
It might be possible to create a part from their dumb solid and use it
as an imported part in what you do in order to link what you are doing
to changes they make. This would need some testing.
For this client They will essentially create a file of a breadboard and I
will : wrao : it. We do ID only and my file will go back to them for an SLA
and then off to an OEM for quote and further developemnt. Starting to
soundlike I should tell them I can read an SE file " as a dumb solid " and
give then a SLDPRT file from which they can " direct edit " as needed.
Yes, you can "direct edit" their file in SW and then send it back to
them to "direct edit" in SW. Since you aren't going to change their
file and they probably are just going to add or remove inner detail
this method will have the advantage of producing a fixed record of what
each is passing to the other.
After reading the sales hype "direct editing" is just manipulating
non-parametric geometry and creating further parametric features. I
would use parasolid as the exchange medium instead of native SE files
since SE is not using any of the parametric information from SW nor
will SW be using any parametric information from SE.
If they are sending something as simple as you seem to be saying you
can still use FeatureWorks in SW to turn it into a true SW parametric
model. I don't think SE has any similar capability.
They will be sending very simple stuff and I am generating external shapes
for it. I appreciate your help. Likely we will be using parasolid as you
suggest. Funny but there isnt a SE newsgroup. Am not familiar with it but
it cant be too popular.
Oh, there is an SE newsgroup. Is costs $$$$$$ to get in though. In
other words it belongs to UG and you don't get in if you aren't paid
up. You might find someone at your customer that maybe can be of help
My interpretation was that he wanted to pass geometry back and forth between
SWX and SE, which as far as I'm aware means "dumb models", and so the
non-history-based editing tools in SE would be of help.
To my knowledge there is not a parametric feature based modeler that
can edit another's feature tree (history). UG cannot even do this with
SE files and vice versa.
If the Boss want's this he will have to pay for conversion each way.
Just have a dedicated person reproduce the feature tree and features
each way and verify the result.
There are no standards, there are no agreed on methods even within a
given software family. SW cannot even edit its own files when they come
from a future version.
I reported to my client that we would need to excahnge informaiton via
parasolid files or STEP files to which they advised that they were beginning
to get the feeling that SE was not really mainstream any longer.. They have
one seat of SW2005 and plan to convert the place over to SW2007 which their
infiormal survey suggests is far more universal and common.
I would like to think it is just for my sake but alas it is not. Come to
think of it I havent come across a client lately that uses anything other
than PE or SW.