Help ! New CLient uses Solidedge

Can anyone shed any light on how to allow new client to read and adjust my
SWX07 files ? It looks like Solidedge allows for editing to some degree -
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appreciate any help. TIA.
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WonderMan
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That's been in UG for years. If it isn't parametric, which it isn't, then it is no more powerful than the functionality SW has had for years to edit SE files.
W> Can anyone shed any light on how to allow new client to read and adjust my
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TOP
"TOP" wrote
If it's the same technology that's in the last few versions of NX (it was called DMX - don't know whether it still is) then it's extremely powerful and can be used to make precise, re-editable modifications to what started out as a dumb model.
John H
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John H
We must be talking about two different things. The original poster was talking about editing SW files, not dumb models.
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TOP
I guess I am looking for an acceptable solution to read their SE files and then produce a SW file they can read and edit. It looks like my post with the direct edit link will allow me to do this. Read theirs, edit it and send it back for them to read and edit ? Did I miss something ? TKS.
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WonderMan
What is missing is a way to modify the feature tree and parametric relations between any two CAD programs. You can manipulate the geometry, but as soon as you do that you lose any linkage. Both SW and SE at their core consist of a set of instructions created by the user that define the geometry. Modifying the geometry does not modify the instructions. Both can modify each other's geometry, but not each other's instructions on how to get that geometry.
I am curious as to how complex these parts are that you have to shuttle back and forth?
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TOP
They are very very simple. This client also uses SWX 2005 also. I use SWX2007. They need to dictate a small set of internal instructions and I do the outside appearance.
For the life of me I dont get why they picked SE AND SWX. The final prodcut of the work is a solid model of the outside, a final breadboard only of the function ( very simple ). Looks like and a works like. Its a small exchange of info between is and the mfgr.
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WonderMan
2007 won't talk to 2005 of course. If they have FeatureWorks they could process your parasolids into a parametric model. They can make a model in 2005 and send it to you and you would have full parametric capability that way. And if you haven't been with SW that long you probably don't have a seat of 2005 sitting around. So my guess is that you will be swapping parasolids. That isn't all bad as you have an immutable reference of what you sent each other. But you won't have parametric control over each others model either.
It might be possible to create a part from their dumb solid and use it as an imported part in what you do in order to link what you are doing to changes they make. This would need some testing.
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TOP
For this client They will essentially create a file of a breadboard and I will : wrao : it. We do ID only and my file will go back to them for an SLA and then off to an OEM for quote and further developemnt. Starting to soundlike I should tell them I can read an SE file " as a dumb solid " and give then a SLDPRT file from which they can " direct edit " as needed.
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WonderMan
Yes, you can "direct edit" their file in SW and then send it back to them to "direct edit" in SW. Since you aren't going to change their file and they probably are just going to add or remove inner detail this method will have the advantage of producing a fixed record of what each is passing to the other.
After reading the sales hype "direct editing" is just manipulating non-parametric geometry and creating further parametric features. I would use parasolid as the exchange medium instead of native SE files since SE is not using any of the parametric information from SW nor will SW be using any parametric information from SE.
If they are sending something as simple as you seem to be saying you can still use FeatureWorks in SW to turn it into a true SW parametric model. I don't think SE has any similar capability.
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TOP
They will be sending very simple stuff and I am generating external shapes for it. I appreciate your help. Likely we will be using parasolid as you suggest. Funny but there isnt a SE newsgroup. Am not familiar with it but it cant be too popular.
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WonderMan
Oh, there is an SE newsgroup. Is costs $$$$$$ to get in though. In other words it belongs to UG and you don't get in if you aren't paid up. You might find someone at your customer that maybe can be of help there.
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TOP
There is an open newsgroup at Eng-Tips.com. Otherwise, there is a UGS hosted newsgroup as TOP explained, which is only accessible by customers on maintenance.
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ken
My interpretation was that he wanted to pass geometry back and forth between SWX and SE, which as far as I'm aware means "dumb models", and so the non-history-based editing tools in SE would be of help.
John H
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John H
As would the non-history editing tools in SW.
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TOP
Yeah, but he wants his client using SE to be able to edit his SWX2007 files....
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John H
To my knowledge there is not a parametric feature based modeler that can edit another's feature tree (history). UG cannot even do this with SE files and vice versa.
If the Boss want's this he will have to pay for conversion each way. Just have a dedicated person reproduce the feature tree and features each way and verify the result.
There are no standards, there are no agreed on methods even within a given software family. SW cannot even edit its own files when they come from a future version.
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TOP
I reported to my client that we would need to excahnge informaiton via parasolid files or STEP files to which they advised that they were beginning to get the feeling that SE was not really mainstream any longer.. They have one seat of SW2005 and plan to convert the place over to SW2007 which their infiormal survey suggests is far more universal and common.
I would like to think it is just for my sake but alas it is not. Come to think of it I havent come across a client lately that uses anything other than PE or SW.
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WonderMan
Oh, hell. We're in trouble now.
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ohMyAchingAss
Yes, SE does have an add-on package similar to FeatureWorks. They have had it in SE for many years. I believe, as of v18, it now comes standard and is no longer an extra users have to pay for.
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swizzle

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