SW 2004 Bugs, per Solidworks

That is simply not true. I use dozens of different pieces of software on a daily basis that don't suffer from such problems. Heck, a few of them I wrote myself. Many were created by amateurs who understand the concept of quality.

No one is asking for perfection. All that is desired is quality. It is currently not present in many aspects of the software.

There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics. Revealing how many bugs were found by beta testers isn't a very useful data point.

More nonsense. The only bugs that fall into such a category are bugs that would require vast changes to the internal working of SW. Such bugs are rare. The vast majority of 'known bugs' can be fixed in short order. If the code is well written.

Several hundred regular posters clearly think otherwise. The simple fact is that the highest quality questions and answers are asked and given in this newsgroup. I dare say that many folks here are far more familiar with SW than most SW employees, including the coders who likely haven't designed/detailed a mechanical component at any point in their career.

Oh please.

How does one get caught 'sneaking out'? Furthermore, why would Autodesk employess need to create 'false identities'? What organizatin do you have to be a card carrying member of in order to attends Solidworks World? I thought the event was open to anyone. Were charges filed against these brazen impersonators? Fraud is a crime after all....

However many the voices in your head tell you.

Well desreved from where I stand. Hint: The best way to prevent your competitors from attacking is to *not* provide them with ammunition.

Cue the black helicopters.....

Not half as nasty as the random suppression of features and CTDs I fight every day.

Jim .

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Jim Sculley
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yeah right. names maybe?

and SW employees don't attend adesk events?

and i'm sure SW doesn't have any copies of inventor lying around for comparison either.

Hell, *I* have attended trade shows with a fake name and company badge. Just because you get more attention if the salesman thinks you're a customer instead of an OEM. Nice way to learn about competition and the industry in general. We also buy competitors products to look at.

at least it was justified.

maybe if you fixed your software instead of complaining about the users demanding stability, consistency, etc you'd be better off.

It's kinda like South Park and "Red Hot Catholic Love." "We need to find a way to stop these boys from telling people we've been having sex with them!" "No! The issue is you need to stop having sex with boys." (paraphrased)

Maybe if SW worked on the issues with the software, people would stop complaining. Now THERE'S a concept.

-nick e.

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Nick E.

Software companies will always be going at each other, that is life and business. Those companies that focus on quality and service will be successful and prosper in the long term. The rest will melt away and eventually be forgotten. I also was a former AutoDesk user and can say from my experience they are masters of deceit and totally blow off and ignore their customer base.

SolidWorks needs to stand tall and put out a quality product.

Kman

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Kman

Mark, Paul, Eddy, Nick, Jim and Ken have pretty well said the things that need to be said. So why should I listen to you instead of them? Come out, come out, wherever you are!

Seems like the top two guys are/were regulars on this group (or am I mixing Jason up with someone else?). For all I know the other three are also. Seems like SW ought to listen to the folks here a little more.

Jerry Steiger Tripod Data Systems

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Jerry Steiger

I don't recognize those other 3 names from here. And many more in the top

25 list that was briefly available. Maybe they lurk. I had theorized that these other people talked their bosses into letting them beta test as a matter of trying to support a 100-seat company. That sounds more like who I think they probably listen to.
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Dale Dunn

I used to post quite often here in the past but I can't get to the group at work except through google which makes you use you email to post, resulting in spam bots getting a hold of it.

Jason

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Jason Capriotti

Not sure who wrote this:

For the record, I'd counter this by saying that maybe us users wouldn't be so unforgiving towards SW if we felt submitting bugs, etc wasn't an exercise in futility.

I expect major bugs, and ESPECIALLY regressions, to be fixed rather quickly.

ie: I fully expect that messed up cut-extrude-offset-from-surface-dim-display bug to be fixed in SP2.1.

Will it? Probably not.

I forget if I submitted it during SP0.0 or during the early days of 1.0. I think it was 0.0 tho. By 2.0 it definately should have been fixed.

--nick e.

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Nick E.

There were 3 at least, 2 known names were: a.. Kevin McHugh ADESK AE North East b.. Byron Giannopoulos ADESK Sales Manager North East Apparently they attended the entire event, used false identities and were only caught when a Solid employee recognized them on the last day sneaking out.

Maybe they were looking for jobs?

from cadcamnet.com

archrival Autodesk took out full-page advertisements in both the Boston Globe and USA Today on January 21, deriding SolidWorks. The advertisement read in one-inch-high block letters, "What they won't tell you at SolidWorks World: The world's number one 3D design software is Autodesk Inventor Series." The ad provided no figures or facts to back up the claim and said comparisons were based on 2002 sales.

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The question is who cares?

- Eddy

There were 3 at least, 2 known names were: Kevin McHugh ADESK AE North East Byron Giannopoulos ADESK Sales Manager North East Apparently they attended the entire event, used false identities and were only caught when a Solid employee recognized them on the last day sneaking out.

Maybe they were looking for jobs?

from cadcamnet.com

archrival Autodesk took out full-page advertisements in both the Boston Globe and USA Today on January 21, deriding SolidWorks. The advertisement read in one-inch-high block letters, "What they won't tell you at SolidWorks World: The world's number one 3D design software is Autodesk Inventor Series." The ad provided no figures or facts to back up the claim and said comparisons were based on 2002 sales.

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Eddy Hicks

Sorry, I need more information,.. (trying to paint a picture here..) =

So, when you guys identified them... did you guys wrestle them to the ground, handcuff them... then bring them to the back room, apply battery cables to their gonads and slap them around!? (hope so!?) Or, did you stand up to them and say: "AutoDesk slim like you make us sick (spit on their shoes)... give us your stinking badges (with a mexican accent)!" then put their arms behind their backs and throw them out onto the street!? (much more civil) Or, just say,.. Ah Hah!! We know who you are (fingers pointing)!! =

Then ask (please for their id's and ask them (please) leave as they were exiting anyway? Or, did you guys say (with beers in your hand and a buzz),.. "Hey,.. (long pause) did you guys see those guys...(long pause)...I think,.. I know those guys, (long pause, eye's glazed).. they are adesk vars aren't they... they've already walked out the exit...

BTW, I'd luv to post the adesk article to remind people that adesk are slim. But, in either case, none of this surprises me and american is still basically a free country. So, for marketing people to pull these tactics, is anyone really surprised??? No doubt, ade$k marketing are slimier.

=2E. =

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Paul Salvador

Seems like Mr. Garcia missed a marketing opportunity when he set his goal--

It might have resonated better if he said they were shooting for 2005 bugs in SW2005

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Michael

So that's the naming convention! Thanks for explaining!

:)

- Eddy

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Eddy Hicks

And the number one selling book of all time is the bible, So why should you ever buy or read any other book?

Joe

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