Electrical question

Aug 02, 2005 14 Replies

I bought a GG1 unknown manufacturer on EBay. Runs like a top, real smooth fairly quiet. However as it goes by I can really pick up the smell of ozone from the motor. Any thoughts as to why?



Also I've debated setting up a section of track to run GG1's and other overhead wired locos. Anyone ever see any plans or know who might make an overhead wire system? One that it gets it's power from the wire! Poles & the wire I guess is what I'm looking for.



Tim C.


"C> I bought a GG1 unknown manufacturer on EBay. Runs like a top, real smooth "C> fairly quiet. However as it goes by I can really pick up the smell of ozone "C> from the motor. Any thoughts as to why?

Probably needs some cleaning, but might be normal for an older model. It is probably a common PM commutator motor and it is arcing some -- the arcing is causing the ozone. Re-powering it with a modern can motor can also cure it of the ozone smell.

"C> "C> Also I've debated setting up a section of track to run GG1's and other "C> overhead wired locos. Anyone ever see any plans or know who might make an "C> overhead wire system? One that it gets it's power from the wire! Poles & the "C> wire I guess is what I'm looking for.

Do a google search for 'Trolley' -- this will get you close. Technically, trolley wiring (as in Brills or PCCs or LRVs) is rather different from what GG1s and the like (AEM7s, etc) run under, it is going to be hard to find anything in the way of *functional* overhead wiring. Lots of model plastic towers, but they are not strong enough to support copper wire under tension. Working model (overhead) trolley setups use brass trolley support poles and phosphor-bronze wire, with cast brass or bronze fittings. The sorts of 'steel' towers used by high-voltage electric locos (like GG1s) are different. You'll probably have to hand make them from brass or something. You can probably use the phosphor-bronze trolley wire, though. Getting a *working* pantograph will likely also be interesting as well.

"C> "C> Tim C. "C> "C> "C>

\/ Robert Heller ||InterNet: snipped-for-privacy@cs.umass.edu

formatting link
|| snipped-for-privacy@deepsoft.com
formatting link
/\FidoNet: 1:321/153

Model Memories does PRR and New Haven Overhead. GG1 only ran on PRR from Harrisburg or DC to New York.

Jim Stewart

"Jim Stewart" wrote in news:dcoe4s$8qj$ snipped-for-privacy@usenet.cso.niu.edu:

Look on

formatting link
One of the regulars there is building a layout based on GG1 type power and posted a tutorial on making poles for the overhead. A recent post of his in one of the forums has a bunch of pictures of his layout construction project.

Scale?

Try:

formatting link
&

formatting link
for HO equipment. You get the idea for other scales...

Rob

You obviously got a rare loco with a "prototypical smell" unit installed. Although a nice feature on some models, I'd *strongly* suggest not buying the companion stock car.

"Model catenary" would probably come closer to what he's looking for.

Functional catenary is made by Sommerfeldt, Viessman, Vollmer, and others. All should be readily available in the US.

Sommerfeldt, again, for starters.

Do a google search for "Sommerfeldt" or "Viesmann"

Tim wrote: Tim=A0Coyle) I bought a GG1 unknown manufacturer on EBay. Runs like a top, real smooth fairly quiet. However as it goes by I can really pick up the smell of ozone from the motor. Any thoughts as to why? Also I've debated setting up a section of track to run GG1's and other overhead wired locos. Anyone ever see any plans or know who might make an overhead wire system? One that it gets it's power from the wire! Poles & the wire I guess is what I'm looking for.

------------------------------------------------- I believe Model Memories as Pennsylvania Railroad type catenary towers. As for the ozone smell, I seem to remember smelling ozone when a real GG1 whizzed by.

formatting link
Best of luck with your electrification project.

Bill Bill's Railroad Empire N Scale Model Railroad:

formatting link
History of N Scale:
formatting link
Railroad Bookstore:
formatting link
to 1,100 sites:
formatting link

Keep running the machine.... Help replace the ozone layer....

Model Yesteryears (IIRC) has the Pennsy type catenary. Sommerfeldt and Viessman have the most realistic operational catenary and the time put in is well worth the while....

I got the chemical tank car. Had a bad derailment with it and the car sank through the foam scenery that I do. Big mess all around!

-- Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?

mark_newton schrieb:

"Viessmann" will bring you closer to the result, which is:

formatting link
formatting link
Sommerfeldt is at:

formatting link
However, both Sommerfeldt and Viessmann have various European prototypes. I am not aware of any ready-made overhead wire system of USA prototype. From what I have seen when I was in New Jersey, the system used on the northeast corridor is quite different from what can be found in Europe, so you probably have to scratchbuild your own system to come close to the prototype.

Join the Discussion

Have something to add? Share your thoughts — no account required.

Didn't find your answer?

Ask the community — no account required