German Rail - WW II - Rail yard Operations

I'm trying to design a diorama of a train carrying one of the German big guns - Karl or Leopold, and without being inaccurate get a reasonable number of kits in a given area. So the question is how were trains assembled in the yard. I'm assuming a BR-52 or Armored steam engine would pull the assembled train, and maybe a small diesel might be moving the cars around into an assembled train. So could the Br-52 be on one track with part of the train while the diesel is on parallel tracks moving individual or sets of cars to add-on, or cars being loaded with supplies - soon to be added to the assembly. In connecting a car to the freight would the small diesels move them up for connection to units already connected to the big steam unit or would the total train be assembled and then the steamer connected. There must have been some typical concept of operations in the yards - which I'll bet is different from the way US trains operated during that period. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Val Kraut

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Val Kraut
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Val Kraut skriver:

What you need is a V188 diesel and som V36 or V20

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Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

Those were of course owned and operated by the German military (army) during WWII, not by the Deutsche Reichsbahn. Very broadly speaking, European railways were under 3 German administrations during WWII, Germany itself was controlled by the DR, stable occupied countries under an occupation administration made up of military and (ex)DR staff overseeing the local administration and then the third category of fighting regions where the control and operation was by Military. The rail guns tended to be utilized in Army (Eastern front) or occupied regions (eg, France, Italy) unless the gun was being moved from manufacturing/repair within Germany.

The V188 locos were built specifically for rail-gun transport. The availablr models, (Lima/Rivarossi and Ma/Trix) are offered in pairs, but AFAIK the locos were originally intended to operate singley. The V36 and V20 can also be had in HO scale (and some others). These would be used for shunting wagons and making up trains. The V36 might have been powerful enough to move a railgun train at slow speeds. BR 52 would be suitable for long distance hauls but was recognised as a bad bet for moving the rail-gun when it was being fired. It was common to lay a curved track at the firing position so that the gun could be aimed by pushing it to the required alignment on the curve. After some firing the gun might be huled to a disused tunnel. A steam loco would attract ground attack aircraft.

Greg.P.

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Greg.Procter

"Greg.Procter" skriver:

Yes they were operated by the "Wermacht"

No, they were buld as "twins", therefore one one cab at each engine.

There were oroginally plans for bilding 5 sets of the V188, but after they finished 3 sete the Krupp factory was hit by bombs, so the last 2 "twins" were never build.

BTW, none of the models is in wermachts livery, they carry the name "Deutsche Reichsbahn"

Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

Like the British Rail HST Diesels! ;-) I understand the 6 loks were each a complete operating unit.

Interesting point! Is that because neither Lima nor Ma have yet offered the Wermacht livery or because they were delivered with DR markings?

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Greg.Procter

"Greg.Procter" skriver:

Correct.

DR markings.

The next thing is that they are hards to find in grey camuflage colurs. They were delivered in grey colurs, not the green camuflage as on most models.

Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

On 8/31/2009 9:35 PM Klaus D. Mikkelsen spake thus:

Camouflage, from the French "camoufler", to disguise.

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David Nebenzahl

Not two f's?? Man. I remember this girl with a classic Royal Navy dazzle pattern . . .

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Steve Caple

David Nebenzahl skriver:

It is I LeClerc I am in disguise......

Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

ROTFL

-- Groeten van Fred W. te H. Pluk de dag, voor je in een vaas eindigt. Loesje - goud van oud

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FredW

FredW skriver:

You have seen Allo Allo too?

Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

Oh yes, many years ago, many episodes!

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"Good moaning! Listen very carefully, I shall say zis only once..."

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FredW

On 9/1/2009 7:56 AM FredW spake thus:

Hmmm; I was thinking Peter Sellers, but found this instead:

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Never hoid of it. Must have been one of those Yurpeen films we never saw over here.

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David Nebenzahl

David Nebenzahl skriver:

Guess so. Not sure if you got the right sense of humor for it.

Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

On 9/1/2009 10:55 AM Klaus D. Mikkelsen spake thus:

Well, of course that's always a question, whether something will translate from one culture to another.

I will say I like a lot of British humor (notably Monty Python), while most of the Brit stuff on PBS here (Pabulum Broadcast System) that passes for "humor" (like "Are You Being Served?") leaves me totally indifferent.

I've long held that there two types of American tastes for Brit humor: those who like "Are You Being Served?" and "As Time Goes By", and those who like Benny Hill. (I'm in the latter group.)

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David Nebenzahl

David Nebenzahl skriver:

- cut -

From the 2 abowe lines, I'm rather sure that you like allo allo

Go crazy:

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Klaus

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen

An excellent series. When I first saw the first episode all those years ago I wasn't impressed until the wonderful scene with the two British airmen disguised as onion-sellers on bicycles riding down a narrow lane - until they were nearly hit by a car and it zoomed out and you saw they were on the wrong side of a wide road. I was creasing myself because I didn't expect it.

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Christopher A. Lee

US humour has (AFAIK) always been of the 'slipping on the banana skin' or 'the total idiot making even more of a fool of himself than the average yank' variety. Until 'MASH' appeared I was starting to think that yanks completely lacked subtlety. I was hoping next you's achieve a sense of timing. Nothing since!

Regards, Greg.P.

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Greg.Procter

I'm so glad I model DRG pre 1932 :-)

Greg.P.

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Greg.Procter

"All In The Family"

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LD

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