Identify Amtrak electric?

"Dont Know My Name" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

IIRC, that's an AEM-7 - I might be mistaken.

Since it's a Kato, I wouldn't be surprised if they took a standard chassis off a Japanese B-B-B loco (and there's A LOT of those!!! judging by the length, I'd say an EF81 chassis was used) and slapped on a 'close is good enough' body for the american market -- it might even be a Con-Cor release from the time those two worked together ....

Far as I know, there was a US prototype; I'm guessing North-East Corridor.

No American prototype. This is a JNR loco that Kato has subjected to an Amflack paint job .

It appears to be a Japanese prototype painted in early Amtrak colors No American prototype, sorry.

Not that close to anything. Kinda resembles and E60CP or AEM-7 in general shape. But nothing had 3 trucks though. the AEM 7 is a B-B and E60cp a C-C. Those trucks on that model are HUGE!

Fantasyland indeed

That's what I am thinking, a Con-Cor release made by Kato.

Nope, it is NOT an AEM-7. Close, but no cigar. But it COULD pass. The AEM-7 is a B-B wheel arrangement. The model appears to be a

Steve Hoskins wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I know there's an N-SCale loco database online somewhere, but my bookmarks are crufty and I lost the adress - I'm pretty sure it's in there.

It's either B-B-B or B-2-B but not the arrangement you described; it's six axles on three bogies, and judging by the sideframes, I'd say B-B-B

As to its precisew designation -- I have *NO* idea other than a wild guess; my area of expertise lies in Japan ....

Dont=A0Know=A0My=A0Name wrote:

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Here's Con-Cor's locomotive (Japanese prototype made by Kato):

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No, AEM-7's are B-B, not B-B-B!

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sort of like an E60CP except for the trucks, (which should be Co-Co), the side grills, and twin pantographs. Definitely NOT an AEM-7. Looks like a Japanese run of the mill type.

I'm no expert but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Out on a limb I'd say it's a non-prototype Amtrak model. Looks good, just never really existed.

Greg

No. It's a B-B-B (actually Bo-Bo-Bo) wheel arrangement. I've never seen one in the USA. This is better at going round tight curves than an engine with 3-axle trucks. The only ones I've seen in real life are the engines on Le Shuttle (the drive on/drive off Channel Tunnel trains) although I believe there are examples in Switzerland and presumably Japan if the model is by Kato.

NO. It's a Japanese prototype with an Amtrak paint job.

Amtrak has test run some strange electrics, but not one of these.

Dan Mitchell ==========

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Correct that it's a Japanese prototype. The carbody is vaguely reminiscent of an AEM-7, but it's much too long and has the wrong wheel arrangement.

Amtrak has run NO electrics with a B+B+B or B-B-B wheel arrangement, though both PRR (E3B) and Conrail-EMD (GM10B) did (both types were freight motors).

Dan Mitchell ==========

JB/NL wrote:

Yes, the trucks are large. For comparison, take a look at the GM10 electric test run on Conrail. It takes huge motors and big wheels to transmit very high horsepower to the rails with just six axles. I don't know what the power rating of the JNR engine is/was, but he GM10 was 10K hp. Several European electrics have similar capabilities. Figure near twice the power of a big modern diesel like an SD-90 going to the rails through the SAME number of wheels.

Dan Mitchell ==========

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"Christopher A. Lee" wrote

US BoBoBo, there the GM10 comes to mind. Nothing close to that pix here for the GM10 see

/jw

The picture looked so dark on my monitor, I was taking a stab at it.....

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The body looks vaguely like a Swedish RS series electric, which were exported to the USA, however they were bo -bo not this configureation, Sweden does have (TGOJ Railway) some absolutely enormous Electric loco's which I beleive are the worlds most powerful electrics and they like this model are multiple bogied. Beowulf

prototype?

After poking around in the photo albums from my time in Japan, I'd say it's a Japanese EF-60 series locos painted in AMTRAK colors.

There were a couple of different arrangements of side louvers and windows in the EF-60 series, and I don't have a picture that matches the model exactly. But the ends, roofline, underframe and trucks appear to be a perfect match with the pictures I do have.

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