Blue and White livery question...

Mk1 were re-painted as and when they required when being overhauled (or after being vandalised), Remember that in '68 Mk1's were still front line coaching stock.

David Costigan wrote:-

On the particular photograph in question the Mk1's are pure white and blue while the Mk2's are pale grey (and blue). The picture was taken on a very sunny day and possibly overexposed. That is why I need to know if the shades were different when first applied or are simply the result of ageing.

(kim)

"kim" wrote On the particular photograph in question the Mk1's are pure white and blue while the Mk2's are pale grey (and blue). The picture was taken on a very sunny day and possibly overexposed. That is why I need to know if the shades were different when first applied or are simply the result of ageing.

Mr P, as far as I know from rubbing the blue and grey down on the Mk 1s (before turning back to maroon) they were blue and grey, with a about a 15mm white edge between the two. I have never (But not say it has never occurred) seen a blue and white livery coach, unless someone ran out of paint on a Friday afternoon?

Andy

Actually, there was BR Mk I based rollingstock painted in blue and white. Some examples can be found by viewing:

Actually the vehicles in both photos at the above URLs are clearly identified on the caption as class 101 DMUs which have been refurbished. These units were a proprietary design by Metropolitan-Cammell and, while originally built during the same time period, starting in the 1950s, as Mk 1 coaching stock, were _not_ Mk I designs nor even based on Mk I.

Most first generation DMUs were proprietary designs of their builders though some lower seting density units used for cross country or intercity use were more closely related to Mk I.

Swindon built express units, later designated Class 126, were used on some Scottish services, mainly Edinburgh - Glasgow and Glasgow - Ayr. These were Mk I derived units though with a different body profile. Buckeye couplings and Pullman gangways were features they had in common with Mk I stock. They did not participate in the refurbishment programmme and never recieved the blue/white livery. I travelled daily on these units at one time.

There was quite an extensive refurbishment programme undertaken on DMUs around

Unfortunately, like many another livery with large areas of white paint, it tended to show up any dirt only too well and was fairly quickly abandoned in favour of standard rail blue/grey.

EMUs for the Southern Region were Mk1 stock but that is a different matter altogether and obviously would not even be eligible for "Refurbished DMU" livery.

I am not aware of any coaches other than refurbished DMUs in the blue/white livery.

Alex. W. Stirrat.

Actually the vehicles in both photos at the above URLs are clearly identified on the caption as class 101 DMUs which have been refurbished. These units were a proprietary design by Metropolitan-Cammell and, while originally built during the same time period, starting in the 1950s, as Mk 1 coaching stock, were _not_ Mk I designs nor even based on Mk I.

Most first generation DMUs were proprietary designs of their builders though some lower seting density units used for cross country or intercity use were more closely related to Mk I.

Swindon built express units, later designated Class 126, were used on some Scottish services, mainly Edinburgh - Glasgow and Glasgow - Ayr. These were Mk I derived units though with a different body profile. Buckeye couplings and Pullman gangways were features they had in common with Mk I stock. They did not participate in the refurbishment programmme and never recieved the blue/white livery. I travelled daily on these units at one time.

There was quite an extensive refurbishment programme undertaken on DMUs around

Unfortunately, like many another livery with large areas of white paint, it tended to show up any dirt only too well and was fairly quickly abandoned in favour of standard rail blue/grey.

EMUs for the Southern Region were Mk1 stock but that is a different matter altogether and obviously would not even be eligible for "Refurbished DMU" livery.

I am not aware of any coaches other than refurbished DMUs in the blue/white livery.

Alex. W. Stirrat.

Actually the vehicles in both photos at the above URLs are clearly identified on the caption as class 101 DMUs which have been refurbished. These units were a proprietary design by Metropolitan-Cammell and, while originally built during the same time period, starting in the 1950s, as Mk 1 coaching stock, were _not_ Mk I designs nor even based on Mk I.

Most first generation DMUs were proprietary designs of their builders though some lower seting density units used for cross country or intercity use were more closely related to Mk I.

Swindon built express units, later designated Class 126, were used on some Scottish services, mainly Edinburgh - Glasgow and Glasgow - Ayr. These _were_ Mk I derived units though with a different body profile. Buckeye couplings and Pullman gangways were features they had in common with Mk I stock. They did not participate in the refurbishment programmme and never recieved the blue/white livery going from original green to blue/grey. I travelled daily on these units at one time.

There was quite an extensive refurbishment programme undertaken on DMUs around

Unfortunately, like many another livery with large areas of white paint, the "Refurbished DMU" livery tended to show up any dirt only too well and was fairly quickly abandoned in favour of standard rail blue/grey.

EMUs for the Southern Region _were_ Mk1 stock but that is a different matter altogether and obviously would not even be eligible for "Refurbished DMU" livery.

I am not aware of any coaches other than refurbished DMUs in the blue/white livery.

Alex. W. Stirrat.

Actually the vehicles in both photos at the above URLs are clearly identified on the caption as class 101 DMUs which have been refurbished. These units were a proprietary design by Metropolitan-Cammell and, while originally built during the same time period, starting in the 1950s, as Mk 1 coaching stock, were _not_ Mk I designs nor even based on Mk I.

Most first generation DMUs were proprietary designs of their builders though some lower seating density units used for cross country or intercity use were more closely related to Mk I.

There was quite an extensive refurbishment programme undertaken on DMUs around

Unfortunately, like many another livery with large areas of white paint, the "Refurbished DMU" livery tended to show up any dirt only too well and was fairly quickly abandoned in favour of standard rail blue/grey.

EMUs for the Southern Region _were_ Mk1 stock but that is a different matter altogether and obviously would not even be eligible for "Refurbished DMU" livery.

I am not aware of any coaches other than these refurbished DMUs painted in Blue/White livery, apart, of course, from the "Blue Pullmans".

Alex. W, Stirrat

Actually, how many times are you (or your faulty newsreader or NNTP host) going to post this message, so far my server has five separate copies.....