I was reading the series of posts on mehano ho, and am curious as to if
there are ready to run ho models of british locos and rolling stock, I cant
think of any other than the Fleischman Warship and coaches, are there any
others, and what couplers do they use?
There are whitemetal/brass kit locos, mostly for the Dutch market.
Roco does a big sliding side wagon.
There are various European ferry wagons.
There were several Lima and Rivarossi models which might return.
Roco also did, and may well still do, a very nice NS English Electric
0-6-0 shunter, which can of course be modified to represent the
British Class 08 and predecessors.
Does anyone still offer an HO Eurostar?
David E. Belcher
"David E. Belcher" wrote
The original Hornby HO-scale Eurostar was produced in conjuction with
Joueff - now part of the Lima/Rivarossi group, and therefore likely to come
under Hornby's umbrella when their bid to take over Lima is finally
The downside to that is that the HO (and the more recent OO-scale) Eurostar
models have such naff mechanisms that they would be unlikely to secure much
of a market share in Europe where modellers are much more sensitive about
quality than seems the case here.
As a result I can't see Horby going out of its way to release the 3.5mm:1
I forgot that one :-(
It's been upgraded and re-released for 2004.
I got the impression that both Mehano (Hornby) and Jouef/Lima produced molds for
Eurostar, or did the original mold get moved and upgraded from Mehano to Lima?
I read a review in one of the British mags, "Trains" perhaps, that
reviewed the HO Lima Eurostar and claimied that it was far superior to the
original Hornby offering. The improvements, from the text, appeared to
include the molding so I had to assume it was a completely new molding.
Interesting that you should mention that. I have all the various
"issues" of the HO Eurostar and there are some differences in the
mouldings. I can't say that they are completely different. It's as if
some of the mouldings have had items added or removed. I don't know
whether these differences were designed into the original tooling, or
whether Jouef/Lima made the changes later.
The various "issues" have their quirks. The best paint finish is on one
of the cheaper Lima train sets, although one of the other sets must have
been made when things were getting difficult at the factory, because the
same numbers are used on both coaches!
The biggest mystery is why Lima didn't make any intermediate coaches for
the Eurostar like they did for all their other TGVs. At a Nuremberg
show where Lima had their last big trade stand, they had all their TGVs
on display. Mostly they stretched off into the distance, but the
Eurostar looked silly next to them with its mere four units.
Martin Wykes wrote:-
I get the impression Eurostar is not very popular in continental Europe. I had
an argument on line with a fellow Dutchman (of part French descent) over what
he said was a TGV which could do 200kph everywhere else in Europe but only
20kph in the UK. I pointed out to him that Eurostar was not a TGV and got my
own back when icing on the overhead section in France caused it to grind to a
halt there altogether :o)
But it is a TGV, Kim- my wife's former colleagues at SNCF used to nickname
it TGV-GB. On the couple of occassions when we've taken Tonbridge West to
France, it's been normal, after the mayor has officially opened the
exhibition, for the kids from local schools to be allowed in for an hour
before the paying public. Inevitably, the sight of a E* towed by a 37 causes
much hilarity amongst the youngsters, and after a few minutes one of them
will be pushed forward to ask 'Can we see it again, mister?'
Considering the fact that the prototype is common there shouldn't be too many
differences between models!
I'm sure I remember a review of extension sets from _Mehano_ and even an ad from
Kittle Hobby - my British HO modelling is of an earlier era so I didn't take too
much notice. It would have been about the time when Kittle were offering three
Rivarossi LMS coaches at a rounded down price, if that helps.
It can't be all that unpopular - didn't the Thalys subsequently use a
lot of Eurostar design features (certainly, when seen side by side at
Gare du Nord, the power cars look vaguely similar)?
David E. Belcher