Hmm, if this was April 1st, I would think twice, but it is now the
So, you're serious.
Why couldn't you run UK prototype on the same gauge track in the US?
Model trains run on low voltage, so as long as you have a US power pack
(or DCC setup) you should have no problems. 12V DC is the same all
around the world.
H0 in UK is the same gauge as HO in US, N is N, and so on...
I've also heard of the real (1:1) British locos traveling through the
Because UK commercial product doesn't use the same wheel standards as we
do. Older Hornby product won't run on anything except older Hornby
track, for example. It won't even run on current Hornby track!
The Brits use "OO", which is 4mm scale, but their commercial product
runs on 16.5mm gauge. (Don't confuse scale and gauge - that's caused a
lot of grief to newbies.) The more serious UK types use 18.83mm gauge,
which is correct for OO scale. OP gives no information about his UK
model railway, not even brand, so it's my guess he's unaware of the
complexities of scale/gauge, the vagaries of UK commercial production,
etc, and the consequent problems when it comes to running UK locos on N.
American (NMRA standard) track.
Yes, both GWR King and an LNER loco (Royal Scot IIRC) visited the US.
In the 1970s, Ex L.N.E.R. 4-6-2 No. 4472 "Flying Scotsman" visited the U.S.A
In 1939, L.M.S. 4-6-2 No. 6229 'Duchess of Hamilton' posed as 6220
'Coronation Scot' and travelling the USA and spent part of W.W.II chained to
the track in, I think, a B&O roundhouse.
Great Western Railway (GWR) 6000 Class 6000 King George V is a preserved
The locomotive was the first of the King Class, and was built in June 1927.
It was shipped to the USA in August 1927 to feature in the Baltimore and
Ohio Railroad's centenary celebrations.
Home of the Great Eastern Railway
Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> Peter W. wrote:
>> I've also heard of the real (1:1) British locos traveling through
>> the US.
> Yes, both GWR King and an LNER loco (Royal Scot IIRC) visited the US.
The LNER loco was 4472, "Flying Scotsman". The LMS loco 6100, "Royal
Scot", visited the USA and Canada during 1933.
AFAIK, it was only cosmetically restored prior to leaving the UK.
I know that the plaque describing it at the museum says something to the
effect that it was used to pull Eisenhower's "command train" during W.W.II.
What a bunch of claptrap that is.
Home of the Great Eastern Railway
You could easly put forward an arguement that the loco should be
returned to its homeland. As from what I see of that engine is that it
would have limited use in the US as you would have to make some major
mods to the engine such as:
Conversion to air brakes.
Installation of an auto coupler. This could probably be worked around
by using match cars which has a hook/buffer at one end and an auto on
Due to the weight of US cars the loco would have limited haulage
capacity. I could imagine what damage a string of heavy weight cars
could do to the frames which when looked at from the context of US
practice they are very light indeed.
Thanks for all the info............ I have all OO stuff, Hornby Lima
etc and i have tons of Track that was on my old layout in the UK.
I got hold of a US power pack to test on a quick oval track i set up I
had to splice the connecting wire but it works the trains run!!!
I have a assorted collection
Hornby Evening Star
Hornby British Rail Lady Diana Spencer
Lima King George V
Plus others i still haven't unpacked yet
and assorted rolling stock
Thanks again for the help
Presumably, because of differences in the normal household electricity
supply, you will have to obtain a new power supply ("transformer"). But
otherwise, everything else is the same.
But if you came south of the equator, currents flow in the opposite
direction, so you'd have to add in a reversing switch! (Only kidding!)
a) What British trains? Hornby? Triang? Dapol? Etc etc. NB that
commercial UK model trains use 4mm scale on 16.5mm track, but there are
issues, and they're worse with some brands than others. Read on.
b) Power: you'll need a N. American power pack, but 0-12V DC is the
international standard for power at the rails. You'll have to hack a
connection if you are using your old track.
c) Wheels: if you want to run your older UK stuff on N. American
layouts, you will probably have to replace the wheels, and (if it's
older Hornby, for example) the bogies, too. Current UK production uses
wheels close enough to NMRA and NEM standards that they will run on code
100 and code 83 rail, and through most commercial turnouts. Older UK
locos are a no-go on N. American track, unless you have machining skills
so that you can remachine the wheels to conform to NMRA profiles.
d) Size: the OO scale bodies and locos are technically about 15%
oversize, but since the UK prototypes were smaller overall, the models
are the same size as HO equipment. So although they will look odd, they
won't rip out lineside buildings or crunch under bridges.
e) Couplers: unless you convert, you can't couple UK product to N.
American rolling stock. This may not be an issue. When UK locos visited
N. America, a knuckle coupler was installed so that they could be moved
in an emergency, but AFAIK, they didn't actually run with any N.
American stock. (Additional info on this requested.)
f) Where are you located? There are a number of British outline
modellers groups in Ontario (mostly in Toronto), and you would find a
lot of help and friendships there.
You need 12 volts DC, as people have already mentioned. As far as the
wheels and rail, I'd just order a cheap 18" radius oval of sectional
track and a
couple of switches and do some experimenting. That's the best way.
Cheap sectional track is almost always code 100 (.100" high) and that
take any kind of wheels. I
f flanges are too deep, you can actually use the
engine's own power to turn them down, if you're VERY careful. I have
this, running the engine upside down while very lightly brushing a file
the flange, but of course you run the risk of taking off too much, or
particles in the motor. Once again, I would experiment on cheap stuff
ruining anything costly. I think the engine I did this to was the
Power possibly-German-prototype 2-6-0 ugly thing.
the only difference is the power supply houshold voltage
yes you should have no problems just get a decent power supply
most trains are 12 volts dc, ho,oo,n are
power in the UK is 230-250 volts ? AC
Australia 240 volts AC?
USA 110 volts AC
so you may need to puchase a correct power pack to get you up and running,
and mybe tunr up your locomotive
Anthony trainman from Down Under
With regard to having to put your reversing switch in the other
direction in the Southern Hemisphere, it's not well known that this is how
the early explorers discovered where the Equator was. They carried with them
a battery powered model railway, and as they trekked through the jungle,
every so often they'd set up the layout and run the train, noting which way
the switch was set with regard to the direction of the train's running. Of
course, when right on the Equator, due to the Confucian Effect, the train
would not run in either direction!
The great number of native porters in the explorer's expedition were
needed to carry all the batteries!
On Thu, 04 May 2006 00:22:56 +0800, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and firstname.lastname@example.org instead replied:
Due to the coreolis effect, the rolling stock wheels turn in the
opposite direction which requires you to wire the entire layout in
reverse for North American trains. This has the odd effect of
forcing the headlight to cast a shadow, the engineer's radio to
listen and those big old air horns to suck.
That should clear things up for those querying about this from the
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