Track Directions on the Prototype

In message , John Turner writes

And Sweden, (though they're heavily into bi-di working as well). However, Sweden's roads used to be drive on the left until the 50s(?) when they changed over to driving on the right in a single day (instantly rendering many right-hand drive trams useless).

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Passenger trains take them at about 30-40mph. Top speed on the line for tilting trains is 100mph. A GE P42 Genesis with 4 LRC coaches is pretty lively.

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MartinS
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Brian Williams

Most of North America, perhaps.

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CN's core high-speed Quebec City-Montreal-Toronto-Niagara Falls-Windsor-Sarnia, Ont., corridors are electronically signaled. Rail traffic on CTC-controlled track is governed by line-side signal indications and instructions issued by rail traffic controllers. The signals tell locomotive engineers to proceed or stop by indicating the occupancy and condition of the track ahead, including the position of switches. Under CTC, rail traffic controllers designate routes, remotely operate switches and monitor switch position integrity to ensure safe train movements.

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MartinS

Oddly, I remember seeing a Swedish movie, made before the chageover, that featured a Morris Minor - with left-hand drive!

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MartinS

It doesn't correlate all that well! A lot depends on who built the country's first railways. Since the railways were built some countries have changed the side of the road they drive on, perhaps the best-known example being Sweden.

There are areas of Alsace where the trains still go on the right, as it was part of Germany when the lines were built. Belgium also generally goes on the left - there is a flyover near the German border on the way to Aachen. Central Europe is confusing, as the borders have moved quite a lot in last 150-odd years.

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has details for European countries. OK, I'm bored enough to look through it. Obviously there will be execptions almost everywhere, but in general:

Left: ==== Belgium France Greece Ireland Italy Norway* Portugal Slovenia Sweden* Switzerland UK

Right: ===== Bosnia Denmark Finland Germany Hungary Luxembourg Netherlands Poland Serbia & Montenegro Slovakia Spain (mostly) Turkey former USSR

No double track: ================ Albania

Varies: ======= Czech Republic Austria

*mostly single track
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Arthur Figgis

Oh, really, I thought, the ambulance chasing craze that's becoming so popular over here originated on your side of the water? Keith

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Keith Norgrove

Well, some folks have to learn to follow the rules the hard way.

Think of it as evolution in action.

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Joe Ellis

"MartinS"

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It says "Under CTC, rail traffic controllers designate routes, remotely operate switches and monitor switch position integrity to ensure safe train movements."

All the dispatcher does, is set the route.

However, dispatchers don't throw switches for switching moves. There are probably dozens of hand operated and padlock locked switches in CTC territory. If these switches are on a running line, and not a side track, and in CTC territory, they will have a detector on them, and possibly and electric lock depending on how "important" the switch is.

A detector just detects if the switch is "open" or "closed". If it is closed, then the signals will show automatic aspects. If the switch is opened, then the effected signals will show their most restrictive indication. Other switches my be electrically locked and the dispatcher will have to be radioed to have them released. He does this by releasing the interlocking permitting the switch(es) to be hand thrown. When the crew have finished their work, they realign the switch(es) for their main route and radio the dispatcher who will restore the interlocking.

The above is a little simplified for space.

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

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Roger T.

It did, it's the American (Not Canadian) way due to the above.

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

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Roger T.

I'm talking about crossovers from one running track to another, used in everyday service and remotely operated. I refer you again to the first sentence of the quote, from an official CN news release. It doesn't apply to any other part of the Canadian rail network.

The derailment of a Via Rail passenger train at Thamesville, Ontario in April, 1999 was due to a work crew not doing as described in your last (well, penultimate) sentence. The news release describes CN measures to improve safety in the specified corridors since that incident.

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"MartinS"

Yes, I'm not disputing the above.

However there are probably dozens of non-remote operated, and thrown switches on these routes.

There are rules governing how train crews handle these switches.

Within yard limits for instance. Say at Belleville, Brockville to name but two. There are hand thrown switches, on the main line, in both these yards. There are rules governing movement within yard limits that permit switcher crews to throw switches without calling the dispatcher everytime they need to enter or leave the main line while switching.

Yeah. I vaguely recall that one.

It's not the first time it's happen and sadly, probably won't be the last.

-- Cheers Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway

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Roger T.

John... humble apologies mate... just found this in a later post...

TGV is definately left running here.

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UncleWobbly

it was clear that sunnik was going on, the barriers on the crossing were down and the bells going but I think she asumed it was for her (stationary) train, plus there was a bloke crossing as well and although he became aware of the second train in time (heard it?), she continued to cross (she looked young, maybe coming home from school). You know what it's like, you and a mate are crossing the road, he goes, you hesitate then go and nearly get killed thru poor judgment... I think she was picking up on the vibe from the bloke on the crossing.

So strictly speaking yes she should have heeded the warnings and not assumed anything, but humans are such fallable self-assured creatures. Perhaps it would be better practice not to let pax cross the lines.

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UncleWobbly

Strangely, that does not surprise me...

;-)

-- Brian "What's the point in growing up if you can't behave like a kid when you want to."

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Brian Watson

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Laurie

Correct. Trains in Indonesia for example uses the right side, while cars in Indonesia uses the left side.

Trains network in Indonesia were built by the Dutch, Dutch already uses the right side by the time when trains was introduced in Dutch. While the cars uses the old Dutch system when the Dutch was still using left side.

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