I am currently converting a pile of sketches on making simple N Gauge models
from (mainly) Peco kits, the sketches were mostly made in the 1980s. This is
rather time consuming and my models were made for fun so they tend to be a
bit on the crude side. I have put up the first re-done drawings at . . .
Does the group think this is a project worth continuing with given the ever
increasing range of high quality kits now on the market?
On 21/11/2006 18:21, Mike Smith said,
Uh-oh - shades of the never-ending "Traffic for Tickling" in RM that
appeared for most of the last decade. :-)
Seriously, yes, it is worth continuing with the project. Anything out
there that can encourage people to have a go themselves is A Good Thing.
The information you have presented is neat, tidy and clear. There are
several kit manufacturers that could well take note of your drawings.
Go for it! You also need to plug it often but subtly so that people
know it's there. Something like a URL in your signature, for instance...
Definately Mike, they are excellent - but can you change them to OO. Agree
about the DIY comment, have just finished brush painting a gem kit precursur
tank in LMS livery and I recon its 'layout quality' as opposed to results of
expert airbrush 'cabinet quality'.
Do you want a picture ?
There's an incredibly rare colour photograph of "Bucephalus" taken in 1939
in the unimaginitively titled book "The London and Birmingham Railway
Between Birmingham and Coventry". I very much regret that I don't have a
digital scan of the page. At the time the picture was taken the engine was
hauling suburban stock between Leamington and Nuneaton.
Thank you, I found Talbots photos in LNWR engines after I'd finished
building it, now you say theres a colour photo when painting complete ! Will
look out for that for when/if have a go at a precursor rather than the tank.
In fact think have seen it at (not telling till been back !)
"Mike Smith" wrote in
You're just fishing for compliments again aren't you? Come on admit it?
. The answer is of course yes your drawings are very worthwhile and
BTW you may be interested to know that some of the drawings you sent me -
wow thinking about it now - ages ago have inspired me. I'm just about to
start on the 009 section of my layout and your drawings re auto-loading
wagons from a building have got me desiging my own version for loading
quary tipplers with waste from the quarry cutting shed. Keep up te good
Thanks for the feedback - Being over 50 I am of the Airfix generation, I
can't see a kit without wondering what else might be made from it!
I enjoy this kind of thing but these days most people seem to prefer RTR and
the N Gauge market has come on a bit in the last 20 years, there are now
hundreds of RTR and kit wagons and vans out there. I was not sure if this
was all a bit pointless given the range and quality of the commercial
offerings. I'll try and focus on the things no one has yet produced,
road-rail tanks on six wheeled chassis and the like.
I am slightly wary of promoting the site, it's all on 'free' (dial-up) web
space, I am currently rebuilding it to go on just two accounts so I no
longer need to use friends webspace, but if it caught on there might be
complaints about bandwidth.
Thanks again for taking the trouble to take a look.
The principles remain the same, so for OO mineral wagons just double the
thickness of card etc, although I am not sure what chassis are available
these days and lengths and widths would need adjusting for the chassis to
hand. The Plastruct T section 'fineline' range is acceptable for OO, making
things like the LMS soda ash wagon a real doddle, and lettering tarpaulins
and the sides of low wagons is a lot easier at 4mm to the foot (you can get
Gel ball-point pens with white ink, too thick for most N Gauge stuff but
fine for OO). You can even get proper drop-centre wagon in OO, in N the
wheel flanges are too large and (unless you want to get serious with
couplings and the like) you cannot simply use smaller wheelsets from US
models to drop the height.
The Peco N Gauge chassis may lack fine detail (the V hangers are a bit on
the heavy side) but being a one-piece moulding in 'glueable' material they
are dead easy to cut about to get different wheelbases or body lengths, I
would suspect the finer detail on OO chassis would make things a little more
tricky. Those I have worked with were all solebars and buffer beams with an
empty centre - great for modelling an unloaded LMS open frame conflat but
difficult to adjust for length and wheelbase. There is now so much
available in OO I am not sure my models have any relevance, all the standard
wagons and vans are now available either RTR or as kits and firms such as
Wizard Models (
) and 51A models (
) offer a splendid range of kits of more unusual wagon
types (their website is worth a look, lots of info on the wagons, liveries
and details. Good for their customers but a real boon to people working from
scratch in other scales).
I'd love a pic of the loco. I gather they appeared on the Manchester to
Chester line so I could use it for the section on Hale station as well as
for the section on British steam locos.
Thanks for taking the time to comment on the drawings.
Compliments would be nice, but I expect to get rather more of the 'well,
that's not right is it?' sort of comment - These are all a bit crude by
modern standards, more train set than model railway, they might serve to
provoke someone into doing a better job though, which would be nice.
"Mike Smith" wrote in
I've still got pictures to put up from "work in Progress" on the 00 side of
things from Sping/Summer this year. Borrowed a sooper-dooper video camera
from work - which also does stills and the software wouldn't work on my old
WinMe Machine, net result I've got a tape sat on the desk in front of me
waiting to be copied.
I've really got to get the site up again.
The colour plate in the book I mentioned is very much clearer than this. The
platform awning seen behind the engine was destroyed by bombing just one
year after this photo was taken and so is the only surviving reference as to
what colour it might have been. I practically had an orgasm when I first
found the colour plate in the book. I expect Enzo will too :o)