Some introduction to welding and lots of safety warnings and horror
If they scare you to the point that you think that you might not want to
take the class any more, then your in the proper frame of mind for
taking the class seriously and safely.
I second that the first day In my class the instuctor told us several
stories that scared the hell out of us, also told us not to forget the word
"DIE" or "DEAD". Said they always come on the job for tools, work or an
A lecture on safety including procedures and gear/clothes. Maybe you'll
see a video on safety. Expect to hear that the instructor will not allow
any student into the shop beginning the next class meeting without
proper clothes including steel toed boots, cotton or wool clothing.
You are also likely to get a tour of the shop. You'll see all the key
stations: welding booths, gas welding stations, cutting tables,
grinding room, scrap bin, etc.
There should also be a discussion and display about tools (wire brush,
plyers, chipping hammer), masks, and gloves.
You may have a reading assignment for class 2 on basic safety as a prep
for a quiz at the beginning of class 2.
You may feel gypped and have a hard time waiting to actually start
making metal melt!
I'll have to work out a deal on the boots... they'll never fit over my
prosthetics (peg legs)
I've got my welder at home... the classes will be to learn more of the
book (tech) stuff and to have someone else look at my welds and tell how
to make them right (better).
p.s. plus I'll get to use some of their scrap.... I think?
I start my students out with a simple lecture on shop policies, safety
and a tour.
We go over the equipment that will be needed for each type of welding
process, and what books would be good to read.
My returning students usually skip this stuff and go straight to the
shop and start welding.
Say you have someone older and not seeking a job... he's just wanting to
do some welding as a hobby and has a tig welder at home... do you put
him on that type of machine or do you have a set course that everyone
does and then advances to the next skill level?
May I ask ( I'm sure you get asked this alot) what books you think is a
Everybody starts on Gas welding.
Unless they are professionals coming in for a specific task, like a
Maybe they only spend 1 or 2 classes on gas, or possibly the whole
Gas welding is the best training for TIG welding and works really well
as a basis for ALL welding skills, plus it is much easier to have a
large group doing gas welding, than any other process, because they
don't need as much space between them.
It has little commercial application in itself, unless you are a metal
I can easily evaluate and adjust torch control in gas welding to
improve TIG welding.
Jack Andrews - New Edge of the Anvil.
An intro blacksmithing book, with the best iron metallurgy description
ever published for the average person to understand and use.
Modern Welding - Bowditch, Bowditch, Althouse, Turnquist.
Our standard textbook at school.
Excellent reference book , a bit complex, but still a must have.
I haven't seen any simple welding books that I really like, but there
are a bunch of new ones that I haven't gotten a chance to read.
I really recommend learning about metallurgy.
Once you understand the concepts of grain structure and heat treating,
you will start to understand why welds are performed in certain ways.
The one concept that most beginners don't understand is why lots of
small welds are better than one BIG weld.
Learn about heat distortion, weld contraction and heat affected zone
effects, and it all starts making sense.
Well, I was going to make a wisecrack about not having to worry about having
hot slag drip onto your foot but then I realised those legs of your are
probably quite expensive and you sure would want them protected too, eh.
All good wishes,
I know you've had interaction with the Crucible in Oakland. Are the classes
taught there any good at teaching welding for "real" fabrication, or are
these classes better suited to an artist that wants to stick metal together
with less regard for creating a joint that is as sound as it could be?
Ultimately, I'd like to weld up some race car chassis components for my own
use, and want to make sure I know what I'm doing...
I ask because the local CC classes aren't offered at a time that is
convenient for me, but my suspicion is that The Crucible's classes aren't as
The Crucible teaches Welding.
How you apply it, is up to you, but they do teach REAL welding.
I have nothing but the greatest respect for them, and I have heard
nothing but good things from people who have taken their welding
I don't think they do welding certifications though.
How comprehensive the welding classes are has a lot to do with how fast
you can learn.
Jack, one other note in addition to the replies you've already gotten --
when I took an adult-education welding class (*not* a for-credit class) we
got the safety lecture, tour of the shop, and instructions on what to bring
and wear to the next class. The class was scheduled for 3 hours, but it was
dismissed after maybe 45 minutes, since nobody was equipped to do some
welding ... nobody except me, that is. I had brought all my gear -- gloves,
leathers, helmet, etc. -- so I asked the instructor if I could go ahead and
do some welding, He was most agreeable, and so I got a couple of hours of
individual instruction right at the beginning!
The adult-ed class I took was extremely flexible. The instructor allowed
each of us to focus our attention in the direction we wanted to go--even at
the beginning we were given a choice on whether we wanted to start out with
stick or mig, though he encouraged all of us to learn at least a little
about both. Over the span of the course, we were also introduced to a little
bit of o/a and tig. My understanding is that the curriculum in the
for-credit classes is much less flexible.
Oh, yeah, and you get to use a *lot* of their scrap, not to mention their
rods, their gas, and their electricity :)
Sounds like a good idea... I think I'll show up ready to go.
I hope ours is flexible too... the day courses seem to have a set plan
of 4 stages (2 stages per year)
That's what I'm talking about... use up their stuff while learning :)