Live Life to the Max!

Oct 19, 2005 18 Replies

Live Life to the Max!



You will if your current engine is an OS Max, or you're contemplating an OS purchase.



OS engines are the finest made, and only a couple of other brands come close for example, Saito and YS. In regard to these two, Max beats them out on a value basis, in other words, all objective performance measures per unit of cost.



What makes an OS engine so desirable? First, OS uses the finest materials and best manufacturing technology and assembly processes available to produce an outstanding product. Examine the engine casting of any OS engine. It is flawless, and the workmanship is good enough to mount the engine on a presentation stand. The machining of the engine parts is beautifully done. Of course, you'll have to take it apart, which I don't recommend, to appreciate the meticulous and perfectly done manufacturing operations.



I have been reading the reviews on Max engines for years, and I can't recall a bad one. In regard to the various performance parameters in comparison tests, OS generally comes out in the middle of the pack. That is it isn't the lightest or heaviest, or it doesn't make the most or least HP or torque. The reason is OS adheres to a very conservative engine design philosophy to make a reliable product that modelers can depend upon. Not only that, an OS engine with minimum care, will last for many years. Although anecdotal, I know of many old field geezers including my father who are still flying an OS they purchased twenty years ago!



Many model engines are cantankerous and difficult to live with, but this isn't true for a Max. Although OS recommends an abbreviated break in, the engine can be flown right out of the box. The tuning process couldn't be simpler, and even an engine that is badly out of adjustment is unlikely to dead stick on you. About the only way your engine will quit is if it runs out of fuel.



OS offers a two-year warranty, and as far as I know, this is the best in the industry. Also the warranty stations have been known to make repairs even in situations where the owner was obviously at fault. I know of one fellow who flew into a concrete wall full blast, and OS replaced the crankshaft and bearings at no cost!



But what about the modern OS engines? I have a FX 40, AX 46, and an FS-52 S, and I can tell you they are all great. But you don't have to believe me. For example, take the AX 46 which is considered the best



46-sized engine in the world today according to the following (and many more):

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And finally we come to the critical deciding factor, at least for cheapskates, price. That isn't really the fault of OS but rather is due to a depreciating US dollar. Several years back the dollar was worth around 250 Yen, but today it is around 120. I will mention one other very important consideration. Look at the where the various products in your household were made. Likely you'll find China, Korea, or Taiwan. Not only American but Asian manufacturers are off shoring or outsourcing to foreign countries. But Look at your OS engine. Clearly in the casting it says Made In Japan. For me, that is worth quite a bit.



Ciao,



Mr Akimoto



Flamed. Perhaps "Akimoto" used to post on this and other NG as "Gerald 34" then "Dr1 Driver" who recently advised he would never subscribe to these NG again. - my apologies to Gerald if I am wrong. "> I have been reading the reviews on Max engines for years, and I can't

Have you ever read a bad review about anything in RC magazines when the reviewer is getting free articles and magazine wants publishing revenue?

Perhaps you have not examined the high quality of Thunder Tiger engines produced under the supervision of Mr Mihara for the past few years. I own a large stable of many brands and types of engine, gathered over the past 50+ years and now rate the Thunder Tiger best for ease of starting, running and longevity than their similar sized O.S. engine, as do many at our large club, in particular the Pro .46, FS-54S & FS.91.

Extracts from some past posts ex Newsgroups. rec.models.rc.air

Message 31 > I have a TT Pro 46 ABS. I was told that next time I should get an OS because it's

An internal dispute at OS resulted in the firing of their chief engine designer. Thunder Tiger responded with a job offer, so the guy who designed most of the OS line also designed the new TT engines. Couple that with their new CNC machinery and good QC, and OS is facing some serious competition. If TT makes what you want for your next engine, don't let some wonk talk you out of getting it.

...Trifraug

NOTE: Thunder Tiger Engines are designed for the USA market - all fuel has minimum 5% Nitro most = 12.5% Nitro. To obtain full power and smooth running without Nitro, remove the shim from under the cylinder head.

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I think you meant to send this to A.T., since this is certainly his stock in trade. Interestingly, you write only nonsense while A.T. pours out reams of utter illogical pointless bull. Were you twins separated at birth?

Ciao,

Mr Akimoto

Obviously you do not speak Japanese.

Baka

When you compare engines, it helps to have some knowledge of all of them. Since you ONLY know about OS, you are in no position to comment on their supposed superiority.

I will put up a Thunder Tiger Pro 46 against your beloved OS dollar for dollar and performance for performance.

Want more performance? Spend a few dollars more and get a Webra 50. It'll clean OS's clock.

OS is flawless? You must be a real newbie! OS replaced thousands of OS

46FX liners and pistons under warranty. It was the same problem they had almost three decades earlier!

OS is flawless? You must not be anywhere near the heli fliers! They rant and rave about rear bearing failures in the OS 50SX-H series. This is well documented in the heli groups. Os is replacing thousands.

Go get some real knowledge before you spout off here you benjo wagon.

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Brad,

WHY is it better than TT? I have been tweaking engines for about 45 years and in that time, TT has proven to me to be the equal to OS in every respect and better in price.

I won't say that one is better than another unless there is some measure of performance attached.

The only hate there is here is from the narrow minded that think that they are the only ones who know anything (akinutto) and every one else is just plain wrong.

While generally a sensible sentiment, Brad, reading more of Mr. Akimoto's posts will illuminate for you why he automatically draws fire from many posters in this newsgroup. Mr. Akimoto's posts can be quite amusing to read if you're in the right frame of mind to appreciate his prose.

I have a pair of O.S. engines, a .40 FX and a .46 FXi. They are both smooth, quiet, powerful, and very reliable. I like both engines very much and hope to be flying them for many years to come. I got the .46 FXi with my Nexstar trainer, and the .40 FX came with a Great Planes Easy Sport that I purchased on EBay.

I recently purchased a GMS .47 engine from Tower for a new plane. I decided it would be interesting to try another brand and see how I fared. I read some mixed reviews on RC Universe, some folks really liked the engine and others had problems getting their carbourators to seal properly. I decided to take a chance as the GMS .47 was $64.99 and another O.S. .46 (AX) would be $114.99.

The GMS .47 looks cool, installed and broke in easily, and has settled in to be an extremely powerful and reliable engine for my Goldberg Tiger 2. The only thing noticably different about it when compared to my O.S. .46 FXi is that it runs about 2k rpm higher and is noisier. I saved $50 compared to the O.S., and I honestly wouldn't trade my GMS engine to somebody if they offered me a .46 AX straight across.

The GMS .47 is powerful, reliable, and is surprisingly thrifty on fuel considering its output levels. I love my O.S. engines, but I'm also glad I wasn't afraid to try something else. I'll be surprised if I don't see some additional GMS engines at the field next spring as quite a few folks have commented on how impressive my Tiger 2 flies with my bargain basement engine.

GMS have been building great engines for decades. I am still surprized at the number of people just discovering them. BTW, they also build the Tower BB engines, ASP, SC and Magnum engines, and I also believe that they are making the Supertigre engines for Tower.

While generally a sensible sentiment, Brad, reading more of Mr. Akimoto's posts will illuminate for you why he automatically draws fire from many posters in this newsgroup. Mr. Akimoto's posts can be quite amusing to read if you're in the right frame of mind to appreciate his prose.

I have a pair of O.S. engines, a .40 FX and a .46 FXi. They are both smooth, quiet, powerful, and very reliable. I like both engines very much and hope to be flying them for many years to come. I got the .46 FXi with my Nexstar trainer, and the .40 FX came with a Great Planes Easy Sport that I purchased on EBay.

I recently purchased a GMS .47 engine from Tower for a new plane. I decided it would be interesting to try another brand and see how I fared. I read some mixed reviews on RC Universe, some folks really liked the engine and others had problems getting their carbourators to seal properly. I decided to take a chance as the GMS .47 was $64.99 and another O.S. .46 (AX) would be $114.99.

The GMS .47 looks cool, installed and broke in easily, and has settled in to be an extremely powerful and reliable engine for my Goldberg Tiger 2. The only thing noticably different about it when compared to my O.S. .46 FXi is that it runs about 2k rpm higher and is noisier. I saved $50 compared to the O.S., and I honestly wouldn't trade my GMS engine to somebody if they offered me a .46 AX straight across.

The GMS .47 is powerful, reliable, and is surprisingly thrifty on fuel considering its output levels. I love my O.S. engines, but I'm also glad I wasn't afraid to try something else. I'll be surprised if I don't see some additional GMS engines at the field next spring as quite a few folks have commented on how impressive my Tiger 2 flies with my bargain basement engine.

I have wondered why any mature individual would consistently refer to himself as "Mr" (sic). Do you need constant respect and esteem, even if it comes only from yourself?

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I like my Merco .49 and my Saito's along with my OS engines which date back to the early 60's btw. I'll never part with my old Fox and Veco engines!!

What about Enya?

Scott

Try Italian......

He signs off with Ciao...

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From indoruwet:

He must watch a lot of the Beverly Hillbillies, particularly the episodes with the pretty Italian housekeeper/cook who keeps saying "ciao" all the time.. and Jethro keeps hollering "Yeah YEAH, bring on the chow!!" Bill(oc)

I've stuck to OS, Saito and YS, tempted to try TT. In my experienc

while OS is a good engine, they are on the high side dollar wise, an have their little problems. The needle valve mount on the 46FX tende to break anytime the airplane crashed, so I was happy to see the change the mounting type on the AX, even though it looked cheap a hell. Well, got to say they did solve the mount problem, just bend th metal back, but created another more common problem. They went to plastic needle valve housing and I've seen a lot of those break off and you don't need to crash to do it. Point is, OS is a good compan but have problems just like any other

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Easy to circumvent:

Remove the bracket and the needle assy. Mount it somewhere else wher it is a bit more protected. BTW: we did break off the nipple part that faces up. Took a bit o epoxy and glued it back together. Still working....

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