Never heard of the first two times, but the supposed last time, when Microsoft bought a whole $12million (with an "M") in NON VOTING stock at a time Apple had over $2billion (with a "B") in cash in the bank? Give me a break. It was part of a deal Apple and Microsoft struck to settle Apple's lawsuit against Microsoft for stealing the code that led to Windows. Plain and simple. BTW, Microsoft got the stock cheap, and when the stock soared a year later made a killing by selling it.
I just LOVE works of fiction.
Apple started on the bottom because the guys who held the purse strings never heard of Apple Computer before, though they DID know who IBM was; IBM made their mainframes, adding machines, and Selectric typewriters.
_That's_ why Apple wasn't able to break into traditional business environments.
I'm still using a 68030 Color Classic (equivalent to a 386) in everyday use, or did you miss that?
Wils>
Me too! I wonder how he'd explain that large chunk of Apple that's owned by the Evil Empire? :)
Sorry, Mark, but you are misinformed. Windows uses 2 buttons, left button for action, right button for information. Of course Apple does not allow you access to change the way things are setup, so you only need one.
I was into the big local graphics designer/printer here in town and was talking to him about his computer needs. He said that when they went to computers they used Apple 100%. But everytime they need to replace a machine, they replace it with a PC as they are more economical, just as reliable and the software more readily available for the PC. Also he said if it goes down, I can phone one of 6 local guys, two of which do on-site repair (at least I know I am one of two he calls). He said of the 12 machines in the company, they only have one MAC left and they will "have to keep it as one of our customers still use MAC and give us their artwork on MAC disks"
So, in the real world, Apple is not as good for graphics professionals. Only in Apple's marketing world is it so.
Art, one of my clients is running his 2 engraving machines by using 2 Tandy
1000 machines. I just had to try and find a 5 1/4" disk drive and install it for him. They are still going and still running his machines.
There are three kind of people,those that can count and those that can't..............................
TI laptop running Windows 3.11, upgraded from 3.0 since I needed the networking stuff...
Don't bother to reply via email...I've been JoeJobbed.
Actually, Microsoft only made that settlement after the introduction of the "Power" series.
But I guess all those Motorola PCs running the Mac OS that I worked on 5 years ago(and which are now non existant because Apple pulled the plug on Mac Clones) are just figments of your imagination.
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Not exactly mark. In this instance I suppose I shall have to give the Devil his due.
It doesn't require three buttons, but I will admit that I like my three-button rodent. I have the center button programmed to double-click, plus it also doubles as a scroll-wheel. The right button is the standard Windoze right-click which opens the menu window to allow access to the program's properties and several other functions as well. Not required, but very convenient. I can still double-click with the left button if I so desire. My brother is left-handed and has a left-handed rat programmed with the left and right buttons reversed. I also have my mouse set to operate at extremely fast speed. I never have to move my wrist to make the pointer go anywhere on the screen. The last MAC I had was not capable of manipulating the mouse to the extent of my present PC.
Another family member has one of those damned rollerball rats that you don't move. It has three buttons and a billiard-sized ball in the center that you roll around to make the mouse scurry about on the vidscreen. I HATE that thing. Oh, it works just fine but it is a monumental PITA to use.
If you'd use a Mac, you'd know this was wrong. Any Mac in OS X can use a two button mouse (with/without scroll) just like in Windoze.
Most of us prefer NOT to, however. I, OTOH, do use a two button mouse.
Just because he can't get support it's not as good? You can come up with a better excuse than that, I'm sure.
The expense issue doesn't wash, either; Macs last longer in service, and are rarely, if ever, upgraded by their users, which means they the TCO is similar to PCs, which regularly get new motherboards, with new processors, new video cards, etc.
Now, that IS old.
I have never work on or even a MAC with a 2 button mouse. ALL the MAC users here still use the supplied Apple mice.
Brian Paul Ehni wrote in news:BC936D00.4D71% snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net:
You must be kidding. True, I don't hear much from Mac users. I don't KNOW many Mac users. My wife was doing work with an interior design firm that had just installed new Macs. She said they had all kinds of problems with those machines and were very upset about it. Want to see problems? Just go to any Mac forum
Computers are complex and are called upon to do an incredible variety of tasks. Problems are inevitable. It mostly depends on the quality of the hardware and software in use. Macs, in theory, have a better chance of controlling hardware quality and compatibility. Software is software, and there is good and bad in both camps.
I put a top quality PC (hand picked parts) together with carefully evaluated software to run my home security and automation. It is in service 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with hardly a hiccup. It is running Windows XP. On the other hand, I have had my share of hair- pulling experiences on other XP machines that are asked to deal with a MUCH larger variety of hardware and software.
I remember having a discussion with a Windows user when I was an OS/2 user. He claimed to have not heard of ANYONE who had ANY problems with Windows. He revealed himself for what he was and any further discussion was pointless.
in article snipped-for-privacy@optusnet.com.au, Mark Newton at mark snipped-for-privacy@optusnet.com.au wrote on 4/4/04 12:53 AM:
Exceedingly old fart. And there is no "standard." Netiquette grew up over time. "Rules" were propagated by the first person to post them. Some are band width reducers (no HTML in usenet news for example), others are just conventions, like imbedded vs top posting.
in article 5fWbc.19693$ snipped-for-privacy@read2.cgocable.net, snipped-for-privacy@CreditValley.Railway at snipped-for-privacy@cogeco.cant wrote on 4/4/04 8:57 AM:
Just because you haven't seen one 200 miles from Toronto, doesn't mean they don't exist. I happen to have a 4 button + scroll wheel mouse on my G4/733 (MS Intellimouse) and my wife uses a Kensington wireless with two buttons and a scroll "pad." I've also used glide points, etc. They all work just fine. It's just the Apple only sells the single button variety, not that they don't work. OS 9 and X both know about the right and left buttons automatically. You can also get the right click by pressing the "control" key whilst clicking the mouse. The Apple keyboard has that control key on the left and right sides, so it works for lefties as well as righties.
I have an AMD Athlon and it runs too hot. I probbly won't get another one. It has caused me some problems. The Motorolas in my previous Apples never gave a pico-second of problems.
I keep the covers off mine and have a user-installed fan (big one) that blows cold air over the motherboard and CPU. Even then, when the ambient room temp. climbs to much over 65ºF, the thing gets squirrelly. You can only do just so much cooling until you run in to the junction temperature problem. There is nothing you can do about that. You can't get rid of the heat until it gets to the surface of the device. A pure copper heat exchanger with liquid nitrogen pumped through it, bolted to the CPU, might reach to chill the insides a little better, but I don't think I want to go there.
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