which .46 ARF?

On 10/21/2003 2:57 PM Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not so great) words of knowledge:

The SuperSportster will be better for your needs - it is more responsive and is designed to fly faster than the SlowPoke (SlowPoke is designed more for SLOW, LAZY flying with little or no aerobatics). Another plane you may want to check is the World Models Rambler 30 and/or Rambler 45. They are both for 46's, the only major difference is the 45 has retracts. I got the Rambler 30 because my LHS was out of SuperSportsters.

The quality of this plane is OUTSTANDING, and it is quite light also. It does EXACTLY what you tell it to do. If you do get the Rambler, a couple of suggestions: The plane is a "floater", and if you have a computer radio use about 55% - 60% of the recommended rates as your low rates until you get use to the plane. If you have a regular radio set you control throws INITIALLY at about 60% of recommended rates. It is VERY responsive at the suggested control throws, but just a step up from a trainer at 55% - 60%.

if you want to learn basic aerobatics, learn to fly inverted comfortably, etc. I would get a Tower Hobbies Kaos. They are priced very nicely and track straight like a pattern plane. They are overall very predictable and land nicely. This is just my suggestion.

Brad

World Models also has a plane called the Super Sports 40. It flies almost identically to the Super Sportser. The model is very well built - I have been flying mine for three years and it is still holding up quite well despite more than few hard landings. The plane is very stable and would make a good second plane. ($100 at the LHS).

World Models Super Stunts 40 and stick a .46 in it. It's THE business and perfectly fits the bill for what you describe you want.

Flies and lands like a trainer on low rates, well serving the irregular or possibly average flyer who is usually a bit nervous for the first 12 months after solo even if not admitting to or showing it, but goes ballistic with aerobatics when you crank her up to 100%. No problem whatsoever doing a passable sportsman pattern with any half-decent .46 up front.

Highly recommended.

p PS: Demonstrates a higher roll rate (smaller wingspan) and faster into the bargain, SIG's Four Star 40 ARF also rates an honorable mention.

Jerry,

I bought a Super Sportster kit and then bought one already put together from a guy in my club. The one I bought already assembled was a horrible flying plane. It took each aileron being about about

3/8" off level to get it to fly level but it was still very "squirelly", for lack of a better word. It could have been the age as it was fairly old, it could have been assembly, or it could have been the plane. Either way, I did not like it. Don't make any decisions based on that, make sure to take everything you hear into consideration. My second plane was a Thunder Tiger Sport 40L. It is a low wing plane and can do very basic aerobatics. I have found a lot of great feedback on this board on planes. Just do a search for the specific plane you are thinking of and you will usually get signifant results. Good luck deciding.

"Dean" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com... | I bought a Super Sportster kit and then bought one already put | together from a guy in my club. The one I bought already assembled | was a horrible flying plane. It took each aileron being about about | 3/8" off level to get it to fly level but it was still very | "squirelly", for lack of a better word. It could have been the age as | it was fairly old, it could have been assembly, or it could have been | the plane. Either way, I did not like it.

There must have been something wrong with the construction of the pre-built SS you bought. The GP Super Sportster is one of the sweetest flying transition planes I've ever built, and I've built two of 'em. I admit, the second one came in WAAAAY heavy because I tried to get too fancy smoothing the turtle-deck. But if it hadn't been for that, it would have been a sweet flyer, too. You said you have a kit of the SS. You really should build it and give the design another try. You won't be sorry if you build it light, and give it only half the dihedral called for in the instructions. On my first one, I even sheeted the wing and painted the whole model, there was not so much as a scrap of moneykote on it. I also modified the empennage, I couldn't stand those "circus looking" rounded tailfeathers, so I gave it something a bit more squared off. I don't know if it is a common characteristic of the design, but on landing with that stubby, stiff wire gear, it seemed to be almost magnetically drawn to the runway. Not in a bad way, but more like impossible to bounce, at least in hte tail-dragger configuration.

Don't condemn the design just because you didn't like the way someone else built it. Put that kit together and FLY IT....you'll see! ;-P

FWIW, Kev

Brad, the Kaos IS an old pattern design! :-) Jerry, if you decide on the Kaos, you're going to have to make a couple of adjustments from your trainer. You're going to have to get used to seeing the wings on the bottom, and flying a fairly fast, responsive, go-where-you-point-it plane that doesn't have the self-recovering characteristics of a trainer. Also, you'll have to land whatever aerobatic model you choose a bit faster than a trainer. A guy at our club is flying a World Models T-34 that I'm impressed with, although the white bottom makes it a little hard to see on cloudy days.

Every KAOS/CHAOS variant I have ever flown could be slowed down and flown like a trainer and I doubt that there is a sweeter landing plane (except for a Stick maybe). They are only faster if you want them to be.

Agreed Paul, except... The Kaos varieties don't slow down like a trainer on landing. If you bring it in "fast" and just chop the throttle like most newbies do with a trainer, it'll whistle right by. It takes some finesse to land, that takes some time to learn. After getting over *that* hump, it's a sweetheart.

I'm just saying that you may be forgetting what it's like to have only a few months under your belt. I'm well past it myself, but my first Kaos was my

4th plane, and it was scary fun! Never broken, however..., the Dynaflite Fun-scale Corsair as the 3rd broke me in right. :-)

Jack