On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:32:32 -0600, Rob Fertner wrote:
In the middle of the Yorkshire (UK) coalfields:
6ukp (9US$?) per cwt(50kgs0lbs) delivered.
Thats metric tonnes = 2200lbs.
Are American lbs different to English?
Coke is ukp8 per cwt (110lbsPkgs) delivered,
"Smiths breeze" is ukp10/cwt
=GBP =pounds sterling =UK currency
My name is not "news". If you reply to that address, I won't get it.
To my knowledge they're the same, handed down to us (or should I say US?)
when we so rudely broke away 230 years ago -- 450 gram/lb?
One day I should find out what they tell little English kiddies about the
American Revolution. They sure tell different stories of the American Civil
War (er -- War Between the States) in Massachusetts and Georgia.
But that's a subject for a different group.
They even tell the beginning of the revolution different here in Massachusetts
versus how they tell it in upstate New York.
Upstate NY had the first military action and British casualty, but no shots were
fired. The first _shots_ were fired much later in Massachusetts. I'm from MA and
had no idea about the NY stuff until I started dating a woman who'd grown up
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:39 -0800, Tim Wescott wrote:
It's the pints that are different then. Useful to consider
when comparing liquid fuel prices (US gallons !=UK gallons) or working out
how much you've drunk.
I don't think we study Merkin history at school (college/university
perhaps) - more industrial revolution and British Empire(India/Africa)
expansion. We don't talk about the ones we lost :.)
"Damned Colonials, dashed uncivilised, what? More tea
I got this from another smith:
IN THE BEGINNING was created the Imperial Ton = 2240 pounds (lbs.) = 20
Hundredweight (cwt) i.e. 1 cwt = 112 lbs.
AND YEA, when the Pilgrim Fathers landed on Plymouth Rock, they said
VERILY: One Hundredweight should be one hundred pounds and one Ton should be
THUS WAS CREATED the US Ton.
BUT SORELY DISPLEASED were the merchants and traders when they became aware
that the colonials were making 10% on the side.
THUS IT CAME TO PASS that the British traders did declare that their
galleons would, in future, also use measures of 2000 lbs, and declared that
this measure should be named the Short Ton.
MANY MOONS PASSED, and the tribes of Europe did send their high priests to
council one with the other, whereupon they begat the EEC (EU).
THE TRIBES OF THE CONTINENT did pour scorn upon the Ton and the Short Ton,
and being more in number than the Britons did ordain that all nations should
obey The New Commandment: Thou shalt worship the Tonne which equates to 1000
THIS DID SORELY DISPLEASE THE BRITONS, since this new measure did contain
2205 lbs., but it came to pass that more tribes came to join the EEC and the
Britons were obliged to pay homage to the Tonne.
THE EEC DID COMMAND that tablets of stone be carved, on which was writ:
1 IMPERIAL TON = 2240 lbs.
1 SHORT TON=1 US TON = 2000 lbs.
1 TONNE = 1000 kg = 2205 lbs.
THUS WAS THE CONFUSION CREATED.
I don't know if this will fit your "survey", but I purchased 50 lbs. of
coal for $5US recently which is way more than I needed as I still have half
of a bag left.
My 2 cents are in now, back to lurking,
Jim C Roberts
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