Homemade mini anvil

This is a mini anvil that was obtained by welding a rectangular
piece of 4140 steel to a mini railroad rail. I needed it for
straightening some stuff. Welded with 1/8" 6013 electrodes at about
150 amps. Welds wirebrushed for better appearance, the whole anvil
oiled after cooling down to prevent rusting.
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Ignoramus18503
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Hey Ig,
You know railroad track is a very good anvil itself, very tough work-hardened surface. But if you need a flat surface, then your set up is OK. Where'd you get the rail from?
I have a heavy cast iron radiator, about 9" wide, 2.5 feet tall, 2 feet long that I'm thinking of doing the same thing to, welding a pc of thick 4140 to the top. Here, the whole setup has some mass, about 150#--was thinking of putting the radiator on wheels. :)
Reply to
Proctologically Violated©®
From my father in law.Yes, I needed flat surface.
sounds nice!
i
Reply to
Ignoramus18503
'course, you dint have to weld *every linear inch* of the plate, ig! a half-inch here and there on either side woulda done it! :) Much less risk of warpage, as well, if that were ever an issue.
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Proctologically Violated©®
Just a question here about maybe using a Hydrogen Contolled Electrode like a 4816 for welding the Anvil up?
Rod Day
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Rod Day
I never heard of those 4816 electrodes... I used what I had, strength is not really an issue here for obvious reasons (low loads, big beads compared to items welded). I used 6013.
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Ignoramus18503
Yes, it would hold with a lot less welds, but OTOH, it would probably make a worse sound when hit with a hammer. That's just a guess. I kind of hope that an inch thick piece of steel or a rail would not warp as much.
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Ignoramus25220
My poor mans cheapie anvil was in dire need of repair, so I screwed on a 10 mm H&T spring steel plate. Makes a PLUNK sound when struck, works fine though :-)
Regards Charles
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Chilla
That's interesting, though weld strength is hardly an issue here. Thank you.
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Ignoramus25220
4816 is just a Low hydrogen electrode, that's their classification here south of the equator in Australia, not sure what its international classification is. Might be 8016. Anyway, welding alloy or crack sensitive steels with these rods is recommended, helps reduce the risk of the weld cracking and has a higher tensile strength.
Rod
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Rod Day
Smile -
I use 10016 welding Armor plate targets. Have to water treat the hot weld or all of the BHN values are lost.
It is common for Big Bore pistols to literally knock off the animal off its feet! It is a shear above the weld.
Once water treated, it seems to re-harden to prevent the Armor plate Pig kill. :-)
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member
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Martin H. Eastburn
Hydrogen embrittlement is the issue. I would have at least used 7018. You might find that the weld will break away from the rail . The weld won't crack but it will come free anyway.
I'll take pics of my effort this weekend (in the daylight) and post the link. Used 7018 low hydrogen rods to make it.
- Regards Gordie
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The Nolalu Barn Owl
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:23:07 -0500, The Nolalu Barn Owl
wrote:
Gordie, just for the heck of it, I will try to pound this anvil with a big 8 lbs sledgehammer this weekend. You are raising an interesting question, I hope that the answer to it is negative, but it would be good to check.
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Ignoramus25220
Indeed. I once got chewed out for knocking about half the chickens, and the turkeys off their bases with my 357 Herret and 180gr JSPs at 1900 FPS.
I told the guys to weld em right the next time.
Gunner
Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"
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Gunner
It is called "hardfacing" in English, and has precious little with what I did (which was welding a rectangular piece of (presumably) 4140 steel to a railroad rail).
You surely do not have to know what you are responding to, but you run a risk of making comments that do not show you in the best possible light.
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Ignoramus31273
Often times the makers did it that way. I saw it at a range before I made a set - Thought it was one thing (upon hearing) and saw it different. The weld was there, but the pre-tempered steel was softened due to zonal heating.
Such is life. But is often the same issue when welding a trailer, a chair, a .... we all have to remember this one!
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member
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Martin H. Eastburn
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:23:07 -0500, The Nolalu Barn Owl
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Remember, I am not a welder by trade and this was one of my very first projects.
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- Gordie
And there are some who maintain that even Jesus Himself appeared only as spiritual, and not in flesh, but presented merely the appearance of flesh: these persons seek to rob the flesh of the promise.
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The Nolalu Barn Owl
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:14:11 -0500, The Nolalu Barn Owl
wrote:
Nice anvil, and that's how i would like my yard to look.
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Ignoramus18033
wrote:
Indeed.
Its amazing to see yards you dont have to climb over stuff to get from one side to the other.
Gunner
Political Correctness
A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Gunner
Gunner - I have more than enough grass to mow. Just not enough shop space for the toys!
My neighbor with 4 horses has a bit larger place, but has stacks of steel beams and sheets - he is keeping for ever - might use it some day... (Rats!).
He has a tractor with forklift tines on front to move/clean.
He took in a trailer, moved it into a creek and set it ablaze. After the fire burned the hasmat out - he was able to get to some stuff he wanted... Old School method.
Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member
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