Homemade mini anvil

This is a mini anvil that was obtained by welding a rectangular piece of 4140 steel to a mini railroad rail. I needed it for
straightening some stuff. Welded with 1/8" 6013 electrodes at about 150 amps. Welds wirebrushed for better appearance, the whole anvil oiled after cooling down to prevent rusting.
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Welding/13-Homemade-Mini-Anvil/
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Hey Ig,
You know railroad track is a very good anvil itself, very tough work-hardened surface. But if you need a flat surface, then your set up is OK. Where'd you get the rail from?
I have a heavy cast iron radiator, about 9" wide, 2.5 feet tall, 2 feet long that I'm thinking of doing the same thing to, welding a pc of thick 4140 to the top. Here, the whole setup has some mass, about 150#--was thinking of putting the radiator on wheels. :)
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:14:27 -0500, Proctologically Violated

From my father in law.Yes, I needed flat surface.

sounds nice!
i
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'course, you dint have to weld *every linear inch* of the plate, ig! a half-inch here and there on either side woulda done it! :) Much less risk of warpage, as well, if that were ever an issue.
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:10:46 -0500, Proctologically Violated

Yes, it would hold with a lot less welds, but OTOH, it would probably make a worse sound when hit with a hammer. That's just a guess. I kind of hope that an inch thick piece of steel or a rail would not warp as much.
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Ignoramus25220 wrote:

My poor mans cheapie anvil was in dire need of repair, so I screwed on a 10 mm H&T spring steel plate. Makes a PLUNK sound when struck, works fine though :-)
Regards Charles
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Just a question here about maybe using a Hydrogen Contolled Electrode like a 4816 for welding the Anvil up?
Rod Day

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I never heard of those 4816 electrodes... I used what I had, strength is not really an issue here for obvious reasons (low loads, big beads compared to items welded). I used 6013.
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4816 is just a Low hydrogen electrode, that's their classification here south of the equator in Australia, not sure what its international classification is. Might be 8016. Anyway, welding alloy or crack sensitive steels with these rods is recommended, helps reduce the risk of the weld cracking and has a higher tensile strength.
Rod

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That's interesting, though weld strength is hardly an issue here. Thank you.
i

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Smile -
I use 10016 welding Armor plate targets. Have to water treat the hot weld or all of the BHN values are lost.
It is common for Big Bore pistols to literally knock off the animal off its feet! It is a shear above the weld.
Once water treated, it seems to re-harden to prevent the Armor plate Pig kill. :-)
Martin
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:53:51 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"

Indeed. I once got chewed out for knocking about half the chickens, and the turkeys off their bases with my 357 Herret and 180gr JSPs at 1900 FPS.
I told the guys to weld em right the next time.
Gunner
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Often times the makers did it that way. I saw it at a range before I made a set - Thought it was one thing (upon hearing) and saw it different. The weld was there, but the pre-tempered steel was softened due to zonal heating.
Such is life. But is often the same issue when welding a trailer, a chair, a .... we all have to remember this one!
Martin
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:31:06 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus25220

Hydrogen embrittlement is the issue. I would have at least used 7018. You might find that the weld will break away from the rail . The weld won't crack but it will come free anyway.
I'll take pics of my effort this weekend (in the daylight) and post the link. Used 7018 low hydrogen rods to make it.
- Regards Gordie
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:23:07 -0500, The Nolalu Barn Owl <&#103&#111&#114&#100&#105&#101&#64&#110&#111&#108&#97&#108&#117&#46&#111&#110&#46&#99&#97> wrote:

Gordie, just for the heck of it, I will try to pound this anvil with a big 8 lbs sledgehammer this weekend. You are raising an interesting question, I hope that the answer to it is negative, but it would be good to check.
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:23:07 -0500, The Nolalu Barn Owl <&#103&#111&#114&#100&#105&#101&#64&#110&#111&#108&#97&#108&#117&#46&#111&#110&#46&#99&#97> wrote:

Remember, I am not a welder by trade and this was one of my very first projects.
http://my.tbaytel.net/nitesky/anvil.jpg
- Gordie
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:14:11 -0500, The Nolalu Barn Owl <&#103&#111&#114&#100&#105&#101&#64&#110&#111&#108&#97&#108&#117&#46&#111&#110&#46&#99&#97> wrote:

Nice anvil, and that's how i would like my yard to look.
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC), Ignoramus18033
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Indeed.
Its amazing to see yards you dont have to climb over stuff to get from one side to the other.
Gunner

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Gunner - I have more than enough grass to mow. Just not enough shop space for the toys!
My neighbor with 4 horses has a bit larger place, but has stacks of steel beams and sheets - he is keeping for ever - might use it some day... (Rats!).
He has a tractor with forklift tines on front to move/clean.
He took in a trailer, moved it into a creek and set it ablaze. After the fire burned the hasmat out - he was able to get to some stuff he wanted... Old School method.
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:54:34 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"

You know how filled with shit my place was..you were over. It looks much better now..but Im still going through boxes and bins
Gunner

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