Aw don't be like that Trevor. Who knows what will happen.
I never thought I'd be talking to a world base of like minded
individuals, but here we are. The worlds a small place these days.
P.S. Please forgive me for waxing lyrical I'll try not to do it again ;-)
Tell ya' what... a good striker gives me a woodie :-D
We need more coffee, stout and alcoholic ginger beer... in the same
glass. Basically we need to chill a little, or take it off list.
OFGS. You've been dealing with re-enactors for 10 years, you should
have a thicker skin by now. I've been dealing with re-enactors for more
than 25 years and Trevor has nothing on them when it comes to complaints.
If something really upsets you then deal with it off list with the
individual concerned. I've made some fairly good friends from disputes
resolved off list.
If you bugger off, the only person that misses out is yourself.
I think being blunt is the way to go when you need information, life's
I would have thought that some of the other posts would have got him
There's no point in calling anyone names, but sometimes people resort to
it. Don't know why, don't really care, I can always ignore a thread.
Hitting metal and brewing beer these days, I don't seem to have any
stress, and I'm not as sensitive (maybe old age too).
He's not a blacksmith, otherwise he'd be making them himself.
I honestly thought he'd have a thicker skin than that, dealing with
re-enactors for 10 years should have given him a hide like a rhinoceros.
I been dealing with re-enactors for more than 25 and you have to
develop a think skin or you definitely wont last.
I couldn't make one striker for $7, let alone $3.50, it sounds like he
was trying to save a buck and assumed that we could make it cheaper.
Hand made is more expensive, unless you use Indian/Pakastani child slave
labour, or Asian sweat shops.
I will assume that the strikers have been obtained from Pakistan, India
Definitely nothing wrong with the craftsmanship, maybe issues with raw
He could have gotten them from a machine shop, and are not hand made,
but done with forming machines in a production run.
Of course I'm just speculating ;-)
I'm in the US an am a full time blacksmith. I responded privately to
the request for quote on the strikers. The question made perfect sense
to me and is how I sometimes get questions. Those of us who do this
full time are quite capable of making quality strikers within this
price range. Maybe that's why we are doing this and others are
I suppose it depends on where your experience lays. I do more work on
blades, and castings than I do on bending metal.
So you can make strikers for $3.50... wow. I suppose I can churn out a
quality knife for about $5, that's with a burl grip, and brass or bronze
fittings. Handsome, not a work of art, but functional. You have to pay
for pretty ;-)
Just curious what style striker would that be, a Frankish design,
I have no doubt that they can be made at that kind of price. My point
was that I would not.
A guy that was set up for, and had the mindset for, producing maximum
number of parts, could breeze through this contract.
I'm in it as a hobby, and as such "I" am not inclined towards
production. For work, I do other things.
It would be for a simple c shape. Just like you said you have to pay
for pretty. I charge more if I need to take more heats or spend more
time hammering, bending and curling. Part of knowing how to charge for
my work is making prototypes to find time needed to make the part. Then
figure the stock cost and and add time per part times shop rate. This
is at my shop but at the reenactments I make stuff the camp needs on
the fly. It can be a challenge but fun.
So is "poor"!
I'll take work instead.
Just not at the forge making a hundred or a thousand at a time of any
one thing for wholesale prices.
I get the impression that the fellow from mtforge thinks that we are
hobbyists because we cannot make these for that price, when (at least
for me) the truth is just that we won't.
Trevor Jones wrote in news:Ld0hh.66904$YV4.22018
When I retired, I figgered that I only had just so much time left to me and
came up with a truly exorbitant value for each minute.
I got into metal-bashing by way of knives - I couldn't find the precise
blade I wanted so I began making my own - when I wanted to make something
(for myself) that simple stock removal wouldn't achieve the desired result.
FWIW, I've picked up a number of skills that way...
I've also learned to "back off" from projects that would consume more of my
valuable [to me] time than I was willing to expend.