quick poll - american cars

Would you buy a a car from an American car maker right now.

Starting with me - no

Reply to
jimz
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Yes, at the right price.

Reply to
Joe AutoDrill

Yup. Without hesitation. But, I only put about 2000 miles a year on 4 wheels. So I have no use for a new car at the moment.

Reply to
Steve Mackay

From a guy who bleeds Ford blue, I refuse to buy anything but. :)

Reply to
Black Dragon

----------- What's an "American" car?

A large number of "American" vehicles are now assembled in other countries and then shipped here for sale under an "American" brand.

Many of the ones that are assembled here have over 1/2 half of their high value high-tech components imported, e.g. engines, transmissions, electronics, and many of the components manufactured here are made on high value imported tooling such as fender/body dies.

In point of fact, there are no more "American" car companies. Both GM and Ford make earn more profit overseas than domestically. Chrysler is more or less limited to the NA market, but is one of the most prolific "outsourcers" of parts and services on a percentage basis.

Painting a car red, white and blue does *NOT* make it American.

Unka' George [George McDuffee]

------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies, must expect new evils: for Time is the greatest innovator: and if Time, of course, alter things to the worse, and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better, what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman. Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

Reply to
F. George McDuffee

Cars made by American companies regardless of where (geographically) they are built.

Reply to
Black Dragon

nope.. honda's last a helluva lot longer than ford, chevy, dodge, etc..

I have a 98 honda with over 207k miles, its falling apart but the engine and tranny are still running like champs.. and still getting over

30mpg.. cant beat that for a work car.. 40 miles a day adds up.. heh
Reply to
tnik

No, I wouldn't. I have mostly driven Fords and have 65 Ford F250 and 89 F250 Diesel and 95 escort as my daily driver. Wife drives a Buick Regal. Ford has been promoting the gay life style, so I won't buy another one.

I almost bought a Chevrolet, but the plastic radiator was a real turn off. I had the plastic radiator leak only when the engine temperature was hot like climbing a hill. It wouldn't leak in the drive way, so I couldn't find the leak. Yet every time I climbed a steep hill the water would run out. I replaced the radiator and found that it blew a head gasket also. $200 for the radiator and $1600 to replace the gasket at a shop. I didn't replace the head gasket. Sold it as it was, when I found out that mechanics didn't like to work on them, because they were such a poor design. PIA they said to work on. What ever happen to the old engines that had real head bolts. When they over heated and you just let them cool off and fixed the leak and were back on the road again.

Richard W.

Reply to
Richard W.

If offered the chance to buy another new Chevy or remove my good eye with a rusty fork, I would ask:

"How rusty is that fork?"

--Winston

Reply to
Winston

No. My biggest issue is too many electronics. Too difficult for second party maintenance, an too expensive to maintain.

Reply to
Tim

I had a '92 Explorer that never had the drivetrain touched in 195,000. I replaced a sloppy steering box, and a pair of locking hubs. That was All I did besides regular oil changes and such(5K on Synthetic oil in the engines, and 25-30K on tranny fluid changes), and about 75K on axles and transfer case.

Reply to
Steve Mackay

Now that's some funny shit! LOL!!!

Reply to
sittingduck

I have seen 3 Honda's with a rod threw the side of the block in the last 2 years. One belonged to my brother in law. He's 50 years old and not the hot rodder type.

Richard W.

Reply to
Richard W.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Losing a life long customer is the real cost of quality.

Tom

Reply to
brewertr

Do you mean a NEW car? Probably not. Depending on price though, I might buy a used one. With the inferior quality of most American cars, they can usually be picked up pretty cheap. My last purchase was an '09 Toyota for my wife. It's a great car. I have a 91 chev and a 92 toyota as well, and the chevy has constant problems with about 120K on it. The toyota is approaching 300K with NO issues. I'm pretty happy with my 97 dodge truck. It needs new tie rods at only 55K though.

Reply to
sittingduck

I have an 05 Toyota Tacoma assembled in Fremont, CA. by union labor that I love.

So is that an American or a Japanese truck? I know, it's where the profit goes yada yada

Best, Steve

Reply to
Garlicdude

When I was a kid, buying cars that cost less than $500, I drove only Dodges, and Plymouths. Slant-six engines and Torqueflight transmissions. The bodies rusted right off, and the brakes and electrics were always bad; but the engines and gears never quit.

In '78 I bought a brand new Chrysler. There was nothing good about it, and what they called service was nothing less than abusive. I unloaded that car the minute I could afford to, and I haven't seen the inside of a Chrysler showroom since. And I once considered Chrysler the best of the American carmakers.

Five years ago, my stepdaughter needed a first car. The plan was something cheap but sound. We found here a '95 Ford Contour. Not a bad car, overall; but the one time we needed real service (replacing the water pump requires removing the engine, which is why I didn't do it myself), I was reminded of how awful, dishonest, and incompetent, a service department can be.

Since I bought my first Toyota (a used truck in 1981), I've put over

600,000 miles on five Toyota's. Three trucks and two cars. The total cost, including fuel, maintenance, repairs, and resale, has been so cheap that friends who own Fords and Chevy's think I'm lying. And I've NEVER had a problem or complaint with service at any Toyota dealership.

My current truck is an '03 Tacoma with 71,000 miles, and I still refer to it as my "new" truck. I drove my last Camry for nine years, and 186,000 miles. My wife's on her third Camry, since I talked her into giving up Chevy's. Three cars, 320,000 miles, zero trouble, and very low total cost.

I'd love to buy an American car; but I'd be ashamed to spend American dollars on something that's just not good enough, economically, at the gas pump, or on the road.

KG

Reply to
Kirk Gordon

Yes always have- FORD (who's not in trouble?) NEVER a rice burner! I'm an American & if I have a choice I will buy American even if I have to pay more.

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Reply to
milgil

Yes.

The entire car industry is about to undergo a revolution and companies like this will lead the way:

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Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

Reply to
jon_banquer

For me I have an 05 Subaru Outback and a 94 Acura Integra. Both are great cars. The Sube has 85k with no problems but a couple cracked cv boots (normal). The Acura has 190k with no real issues but normal wear and tear. Both supply jobs and work to folks here in the US as well as abroad.

I consider them American cars as they were both made here and sold at dealers here. As far as where the profit goes... do some reading about "US" companies doing work abroad. Not a lot of it stays here with the current tax loopholes. For that reason I don't care where the things made as long it is a quality product.

-- Bill

Reply to
Bill

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