On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
I never said any such thing. You and the RossTard are notorious for mutating the facts and circumstances of the test and of any thread you get into.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
That's funny. We have no problem using them at work.... every day.
I use them in my test fixtures which I construct as well. Why?
Because reading current via converting the voltage read across a shunt is far more accurate than breaking the line, and reading with an ammeter function of a handheld or bench meter. That is several feet more of source line that does NOT need to be in the circuit.
So, my test fixtures have them installed, and all that is required is the proper impedance meter. I also read the source voltage right at the circuit under test as well as opposed to relying on the readout on the power supply.
This is common practice... you know... in the industry.
Nothing in the thread was magic, and nothing about my proposed solution requires that magic be performed as you and the RossTard would have everyone believe. Now grow the f*ck up, asswipe.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
Bullshit. I suggested that he should use a shunt. That was and still is a valid suggestion.
You're an idiot. YOU never had the OP in mind at any time. Your petty E-1 grade remarks here prove that.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
You're full of shit, asswipe. I was the one that suggested the method.
I wish I could approach you with a shotgun. Shame the laws are not the same as in the days of the wild west.
You retards haven't chased anything but your own tails.
My method works. Get over it.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
That is why a non energized power strip was suggested along with the neutral side. If the guy can't do that, he really doesn't need to be asking about consumption details in an electrical group.
Yes, I converse with you often, idiot.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
Ross' solution is a minimum of 5% off, and if any REAL probe is used, cost puts it out of reach of the typical tester.
Mine was and is cheap, and accurate.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
You're an idiot. He was using 20 AMP numbers. I never did. YOU are a puppy dog troll, boy.
There are no such accuracy problems, dorkoflex.
People have been using shunts for decades.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
We did no such thing.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:22:13 -0500, Keith R. Williams Gave us:
You're an idiot.
You're a total idiot.
Are you not an adult? What? You never heard four letter words before, little boy?
The street name IS Disc Drive
We now have a "10" on the DimBulbometer! An all time record!!
10 replies to one post!....seems he jumped in and chided me when I did what he called a double post. My goodness, he's so worked up, he wants to shoot you down! Don'tMatter jumped out of bed early this morning, fired up his bong, and absolutely, totally lost it!
At work you claim you have a $1600 meter to make measurements with....Do you really think this good advice for the OP?
Just think for a moment about the OP. If he had to ask such a question, do you really think he is going to follow your advice? You continually claim an amp clamp has 5% accuracy. Let us assume you are correct, even though you are not. Even at that, he should be able to get a pretty good approximation of current use in his dwelling. If the OP measured
20 amps worth of devices he would still only be off 1 amp. Using my Fluke 32 @ 2% accuracy he would be off 400ma or so....either way, it would have gotten it done. Using your .001 ohm precision resistor with a 1% accuracy you are already into 200ma inaccuracy before you ever factor in the meter and it's price, which you never did choose. If you would like, we can factor in that 10% er $2.99 meter, but the outcome of this is obvious.
I found all of your posts addressing the technical issue clear - I had no trouble understanding what you said. I understand the use of a .1 ohm or a .01 ohm, or a .001 ohm resistor as you have mentioned them, and what the benefits/drawbacks of each are. I understand the need for a true-RMS DMM or a true-RMS clamp on in this application. I understood meter resolution and meter accuracy wherever you mentioned it. I enjoyed reading what you were posting concerning the measurements. Your point, early on, about getting accurate measurements versus time spent got lost in the shuffle. What you said made sense to me.
Unfortunately, your posts were intentionally misunderstood, or simply not understood, by others. That's too bad.
Now it appears that posts I have made are being misunderstood by others - not you - as if I am speaking for you. I want to apologize to you if my posts come across that way.
I have not attempted to speak for you. I have neither the right nor the capability to do that, and have never assumed that I am speaking on your behalf, or that anything I have said necessarily is your point of view. The fact is I agree with what you've said. Thanks.
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:41:33 GMT, "Ross Mac" Gave us:
Dumbfuck! The word you misspelled is reliable. How can you describe the reliability of something when you can't even spell the word reliable?
You're an idiot. Seagate made the industry. Your piece of shit used drives had problems, Seagate themselves did not.
>On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:18:28 GMT, "Ross Mac" Gave us:
You're an idiot. I know this because I could "fire up my bong" and get totally wanged out, and STILL beat your lame ass on ANY engineering test given.
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:43:41 GMT, "Ross Mac The RossTard" Gave us:
No, dipshit. I never said that at all... ever. You lying pieces of shit get so deep in your bullshit that you can no longer distinguish facts from your bullshit fictions.
It is the LYING RETARD ROSSTARD that makes shit up as he goes along. It is the LYING PIECE OF SHIT ROSSTARD that fabricated this baby bullshit, because the RossTard has no defense against the truth.
I never said a damned thing about using such a meter at work. I posted a picture of such a meter, and said pic was taken right here in my living room. THAT is ALSO how I described it, you troll f*ck! Got Clue?
That is aside from the FACT that we have 15 such meters at work, and they were all less than $150 each to purchase.
We don't use them for reading current shunts however. Don't need that level of accuracy... at all... when measuring voltage on a current shunt.
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I am so glad you corrected my typo....as for your idiot rant...Those early drives sucked.... But this won't take the spotlite off of your earlier posts... DMM, cheap, 3.5 digit, 100microvolt resolution, and accuracy worth using.....We are still awaiting an answer!
I'm glad you feel invincable when you "fire up your bong".... Unfortunately you are mostly incorrect! And hey, those 10 posts to Keith, now that was a DimBulbOmeter record!
Meter model, make, price and acuracy????? That would be a .001 ohm resistor right! Seems you have your panties in a bunch! LOL....still We await your cheap meter specifications....
A perfect *10*. Read it and weep, all you AEE wannabees! I'm an the *champ*.
He the great one to correct others for breaches of nettiquite, but the dimmy never follows his own advice. The terminally stupid tend not to understand that the rules apply to them too.
Did I do good, or what?
The loser had a really "bum-voyage".
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