Correct way to write 24 hour-time? Decimalpoint too.

On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:00:23 GMT, Jan Panteltje


Cellphones ALWAYS set their time to the local cell node they are logged onto.
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 14:30:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje

Celestia.
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On a sunny day (Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:44:14 GMT) it happened Roy L. Fuchs

I just downloaded that Celestia (was that program you were referring to?), and it actually installed!!!! Now I hope it did not f*ck up my configs as some other prog did... Anyways, ran the demo, and got a bit of Antares sunburn.....
Now to run the sys checks (also running servers on this box).
kworldwatch is smaller, faster, simpler, and I still have not got the night-day world map in Celestia.
Do you know about 'xephem'? Now that is REAL stuff. http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/xephem.html Use it quite often actually.
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Gave us:

Huh? They utilize the same standards.
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On a sunny day (Sat, 27 May 2006 16:24:09 +0100) it happened Alex Coleman

18:16 hr
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| | >QUESTION: If it is 11 minutes past six in the evening then what is | >the correct format? | | 18:16 hr
Typical... Five minutes in error. 18:11 hr
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snipped-for-privacy@broom.Mickeyf says...

I was wondering when someone would pick up the troll.
--

Keith

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| > | | > | >QUESTION: If it is 11 minutes past six in the evening then what is | > | >the correct format? | > | | > | 18:16 hr | > | > Typical... Five minutes in error. | > 18:11 hr | | I was wondering when someone would pick up the troll.
They do not pay attention to detail. This is a more serious and costly trawl by the worst troll:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DominoEffect.GIF
Androcles.
| -- | | Keith
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In alt.engineering.electrical, sci.physics, and alt.astronomy, Alex Coleman ( snipped-for-privacy@no-email.com) wrote:

Yes. RFC 2822. You're soaking in it now!
RFC 2822 is like RFC 822, except it keeps working after AD 99.

Oh. Well, I suppose you could make two semaphore flags and hold them at various angles to indicate which way the big hand and little hand go.

Hey, have you met our friend "Mr. 999 Centillion"? Maybe you and he could refer to a computer convention together. Or perhaps a "Star Trek" convention.
By the way, "16" is not a very good way to write "11", unless you're using base 5, in which case you're going to go to jail for trying to use the digit "6" which doesn't even exist in base 5. Stop trying to confuse the issue with imaginary digits!

By using the sharp end of the pencil, not the rubber end. Remember, if it's a "6H" pencil, the "H" stands for "Hard", so you might want to start with an "Easy" pencil. Less chance of poking your eye out.

Of course, 'cause England doesn't use decimals any more. They use Metric. So a comma is no longer called a "point" but a dot is now called a "comma" which is why in England "dot com" is pronounced "comma dotta". That's also in one of the RFCs, probably the one down the street from me that used to be a Popeye's.

Now that's an impressive trick. How did they keep it from blowing away? Also, how much does it reduce your postage if you write a whole letter using that special ink that hovers in the air? Are you Harry Potter?

Halfway up the one to the left, or halfway up the one to the right? This is important because you might have multiple sizes of digits if you want your gasoline's price to end in "point nine point nine point nine".
-- K.
So do you have any exciting math theories based on the research of Jack Bauer?
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| (1) I see several worthy attempts to write the time in a 24-hour | format. Does a definitive format exist?
"Definitive" means how you define it.
| | I want to leave out the seconds. Also note that I am NOT referring | to computer conventions of any sort.
So leave them out. Nobody is forcing you to put them in.
| | QUESTION: If it is 11 minutes past six in the evening then what is | the correct format? | | 1816 hrs | 18:16 hrs | 18:16 hours | 18:16 h | 18:16 | 18.16 | 18-16 |
Any of hhmm hrs hh:mm hrs hh:mm hours hh:mm h hh:mm hh.mm hh-mm 18:11
I dunno how you got from 11 minutes past to 16 minutes past.
| Does it vary between being written by a word processor and by hand?
I noted that you are NOT referring to computer conventions of any sort.
| See below. | | (2) What is the correct way to write a decimal point?
Is that by ballpoint, fountain pen, pencil, chalkstick, typewriter, on a barn door, on paper, in a movie, or some other media? Some people simply stab the implement, others write a tiny circle.
| I am English | and that means that a comma is not the correct symbol for the decomal | point.
I am part Welsh, part English, but that doesn't prevent me from reading Deutsch (I don't speak it well, though). "Beispiele hnlicher Art, sowie die milungenen Versuche, eine Bewegung der Erde relativ ..."
| But ISTR that when the decimal point was written by hand it was in | the air about half the height of the digits. Typewriters and word | prorcessors did not offer that half-way character so a full stop was | used. But is it more correct to handwrite the decimal point as half | way up the height of the digits?
Err... yes. Oops, I used three decimal points as periods (or as full stops) together as an ellipsis. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/ellipsis I wonder if you'll see the difference? The spacing between the dots isn't quite right.
Get over your hang-up, all you really need is to be understood and English is known worldwide. Those that pretend not to understand are trolls, those that do not understand are either morons or simply uneducated. Learn their language or wait until they learn English. In the meantime continue to write in English. Androcles
| | | -- | | posted to 3 groups whose members probably | need to be accurate about time recording
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Alex Coleman wrote:

1816 hrs = 75 days and 16 hours. 18:16 = 1 + 1 / 8, so this needs correction - although it is common on digital watches. 18.16 = 18 + 16 / 100, so this is not true. 18-16 = 2. What about 18 hours 16 minutes 38 seconds, and shortened 18 h 16 min 38 sec, or oldfashioned 18 h ( but the "h" put in upper case) 16 ' 38 '' ? Hero
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ISO 8601
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wrote:

http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime C.
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In France railway timetables etc put an 'h' after the hours figure so 11 minutes past six in the evening is written 18h11 and pronounced "dix-huit heures onze"
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size=2>...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; (1) I see several worthy attempts to write the time in a 24-hour <BR>&gt; format.&nbsp; Does a definitive format exist?&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I want to leave out the seconds.&nbsp; Also note that I am NOT referring <BR>&gt; to computer conventions of any sort.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; QUESTION:&nbsp; If it is 11 minutes past six in the evening then what is <BR>&gt; the correct format?&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 1816 hrs<BR>&gt; 18:16 hrs<BR>&gt; 18:16 hours<BR>&gt; 18:16 h<BR>&gt; 18:16 <BR>&gt; 18.16<BR>&gt; 18-16<BR>&gt; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>18:11</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where did your 16 come from??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; Does it vary between being written by a word processor and by hand?&nbsp; <BR>&gt; See below.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; (2)&nbsp; What is the correct way to write a decimal point?&nbsp; I am English <BR>&gt; and that means that a comma is not the correct symbol for the decomal <BR>&gt; point.<BR>&gt; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Broaden your mind.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In Engalnd we use a dot as the conventional decimal 'point' or poinr where the integer numbers end. On the Continent they conventionally (in some countries) use a comma.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another fact is we tend to use the 'x' as the abscissa in England, and the 'y' for the ordinate. This is reversed in some countries on the continent. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The fundamental thing to do is to learn to understand what concept you are looking at or reading of, then the convention does not matter provided you can follow through the logic in terms of the convention the authore has used.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; But ISTR that when the decimal point was written by hand it was in <BR>&gt; the air about half the height of the digits.&nbsp; Typewriters and word <BR>&gt; prorcessors did not offer that half-way character so a full stop was <BR>&gt; used.&nbsp; But is it more correct to handwrite the decimal point as half <BR>&gt; way up the height of the digits?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In maths we have a two fold use of the point.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It can be on the line or half way up and either way it indicates the integer stop point.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A dot can also indicate the arithmetical function ususally written as a 'x', multiplictaion.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The sexagesimal system of recording time, with 3'30''32</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>followed by a 'o' superscript, would read as 3hrs and 30 minutes 32 seconds AM. The same thing is indicated by 3:30:32, or by 03:30:32.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To translate it to decimal you divide the minutes by sixty, and the seconds by 3600 and add the results to the hours.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>e.g. 3:30:32 = 3+(30/60)+(32/3600) = 3.509</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the 12 hour format the AM or PM should be used to indicate ante or post meridian. In the 24 hour format this is not necessary as the tme progress to the 13th hour etc. when the 1st hour post meridian is hit. In this case midnight is wrotten as 00:00:00.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -- <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; posted to 3 groups whose members probably <BR>&gt; need to be accurate about time recording</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Hi Alex_Coleman, For myself, I write 18 hours 16 minutes after midnight as 6.16 P. If it was something that happened 18 hours 16 minutes ago, I write it as .761 days... ( 18 + 16 / 60 ) / 24 .
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But, as you are insane, you don't count. I am sure _you_ find it easier to write .761 days than 18 hours, 16 mins but I doubt even you would find it easier to think and communicate to others in that manner. ("I will meet you in .761 days" is just insane)
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Good for you. Its still crappy and slightly insane.Stop cross posting to groups that really aren't interested in you (which would mean pretty much all of USENET but you _still_ refuse to get a blog)
Are you rich yet?
Did you resolve your confusion over the spatial dimensions and my being an accountant?
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the correct answer would be 18:11
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On a sunny day (Wed, 31 May 2006 22:15:00 +0200) it happened "Starman"

Nice site, gives the date too.
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