Hamilton GSA w/X08 lockout

ask on Clearstar...??? or look through the past articles there.

--Shiva--

a possible reason you are having problems is the gear rack that goes from the bolt to the drive cam does break and proves to be a very difficult opening, because it is no longer attached to the bolt you not only have to move it out of the way you also have to manually probe the bolt , be careful the rack does not go cockeyed or you will be there for a month of sundays. you really need a scope to finish this type of opening, good luck and let us know how it turns out

Have you tried the DoD hotline?..

There's other approved methods that don't involve the lock.

Dan

the methods that dont involve the lock are butcher methods for untrained maintenance men, not for professional safe men. Unless you happen to stock doors. a professional will hit the lock repair the door and be done with the job and the customer can use his safe immediately and not have to find a place for the contents while a door is shipped in.

They all mandate replacement of the drawer head which adds repair time and cost. If at all possible the lock is the way to go.

I was referring to his use of the term Irevocable Lockout. I should have quoted it.

Dan

put your., could you quote me the gsa reg that says all openings require drawer head replacement? when i took the x09 cert. class that wasnt the case so I guess i need to update my files.

No I can't because AFAIK it doesn't exist. However AFAIK all methods not involving a direct attack on the lock itself require the drawer head to be replaced and leave same in unrepairable condition, which is what I said. If you know of a non-lock oriented bypass which doesn't, please elaborate.

My post you refer to was:

" Subject: Re: Hamilton GSA w/X08 lockout From: snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Putyourspamhere) Date: 10/20/2003 11:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m03.aol.com>

They all mandate replacement of the drawer head which adds repair time and cost. If at all possible the lock is the way to go.

The word "they" in the above referring to "There's other approved methods that don't involve the lock." Perhaps you took "they all" to mean all openings including those which target the lock?

There is language in the standard and associatred DoD pubs that says to the effect "drawerhead replacement is the only authorized repair" for entry techniques that involve cutting the bolts. Not exactly a reg per se but defintiely is there as guidance. Unfortunately publishing the link would disclose information that runs counter to this groups charter. I guess the people who need to to know this information have it already or can get it through the DoD hotline.