Impressioning - what file to use?

Feb 26, 2005 Last reply: 21 years ago 40 Replies

Overkill? I find the sharp point handy for several reasons. First of all it is easier to start your cut exactly where you want it. And if you have ever had to impression an old Renault or Fiat you will really appreciate the sharp point.

But with that said, my usual method of dulling the sharp point on an impressioning file is to drop it. The manufacturer has designed the aerodynamics of these files to fall with the handle end down, bounce up just high enough to make a gentle 180 degree arc and land precisely on the sharp point.

Of course having just ponied up the bucks for a fine tool as this your first instinct is to use your boot to cushion the blow and your second instinct is to cry out in pain as the hardened point pierces the leather of your boot, the thin skin of the top of your foot, and then snaps off in one of the 26 bones of your foot. Not to worry however, it is such a small chunk of high carbon steel that it only takes a few weeks to dissolve and your body needs all of the trace elements anyway.

Note to Steve Paris. You really ought to stop hosing your keyboard with coffee expended through your nose.

Visited a tool shop these days, and not one of a chain, but a locally reputade, well known and well sorted company - they naver have heard of a pippin file :( Maybe there is another word in the german language for them? So far I could not find them in shops, and not in german online shops.

regards - Ralph

Yes, of course, but it is annoying when ever and ever the key sticks in the lock, and I have to dismantle the whole thing to get it out again :-) The other problem is, when I try to concentrate on the angle usually the cut gets to deep *g*

Well, I really have to practice a bit more...

regards - Ralph

Pippin file, sometimes referred to as an 'APPLE SEED" file, due to the shape of the blade. I personally like the good old rat tail file, but get a VERY fine cut one, and always prepare the key blank before trying to get your marks.

funny, its the 'type of shape'..

--Shiva--

like Steve said... personally, I like the "Grobet" #2 " pippin" file. Your best bet will probably be through your supplier to get a quality pippin file. ask them for the "Grobet" pippin file. the #2 is a "fine" the #4 is an "extra fine". the cost should be around $35.00 (give or take) note;

  1. the file will last a lot longer if you only use it to file only brass type keys. do NOT file steel keys with it.
  2. break the tip off for safety.

g'day

pippin file n. a file with a cross section that resembles a pip, or apple seed

Now you know what to look for. BBE.

"Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS" wrote:

Ralph:

Linsenformig in querschnitt.

Gruß.

Edward Hennessey

Just a note, Mr Shoaf. This post ended up in alt.humor.best-of-usenet

Daniel

Aahh! Danke! :)

regards - Ralph

My cutter in the van makes 90 degree angles -- the old Ford used to need

100. Flat file comes in handy there.

I suppose it is possible, but I have found the surface finish of a clipped key to be inferior to that of using my file. The way I used to teach my apprentices to use the file was to get real good at estimating how much they were removing with the file. You can usually hit your target + or - about .005 inches if you practice.

good practice for using a file. when I was taught, I was given a square cube of brass and told to make it round.

my2¢

We were given a piece of dirty steel in U-shape, and at the end it had to be accurate within a tolerance of 5/1000 of a mm :(

regards - Ralph

When I was a boy, I was given a 2ft chunk of railway line, and had to file it down to a #1 master pin. And it had to accurate within 1-2 thou.................. :-)) , sorry guys, couldn't resist.

What, you got files? My boss just told me to rub it on the bottom of my pants!

I know some middys who've been given that sort of assignment. It does teach you how to use, and control, the tool...

you were lucky....... I still have to file my shim out of s/s strike plates......

sorry... me too...

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