I tried to get to Sargent website - but it is down. I was hoping to
copy my coworker's Keso key - but it says on the key "Do not
duplicate". I'm going to get into big trouble at my job if I don't
produce my lost key.
Would appreciate your help - Thanks!
going by MY neck of the woods, the people with the capability TO
copy that key, are highly protective of doing so-they know who
they sold the system to AND who is 'allowed' to have a copy
so, methinks you are in for some serious 'flack', but the sooner
you fess up, the better..
(assuming, cause I cant prove it either way, you DID have a
legitimate reason to have that key)
Unfortunately you will have to fess up to your boss about losing your
Sargent Keso key.
These keys are used in higher security environments and your boss will
want to know your key has gone missing so the appropriate measures,
possibly changing the bittings of all the locks your Keso key fits in
order to maintain good security.
Mart> I tried to get to Sargent website - but it is down. I was hoping to
Boy are you in the wrong fucking place! These secret squirrels wont tell you
Heres what you do:
Call around and find a locksmith who has the blanks and can make you the
Paint over the do not duplicate shit on the head of the key. Use you
favorite color, red green blue what the fuck ever. When the paint is dry rub
your fingers preferably slightly dirty fingers back and forth on the paint
about 50 times or so. You dont want it to look like you just painted over
"do not duplicate". Put the key on your ring and bang it around a little to
mark up the paint a bit. Dont rub it off the do not duplciate shit though.
Scratching a number or letter code in the paint is a nice touch, makes it
look like there was a reason to paint the damn thing. Do the same shit with
different colors of paint to 3 or 4 other random keys on your ring.
Preferabl;y ones that look similar enough to be confused with the one you
want copied. Dont be fucking lazy it only takes a few minutes.
Take the key to the secret squirrel, I mean locksmith, chat them up and be
nice. These guys are really paranoid but they are also lazy and theres a
good chance they wont scratch off all that paint and risk looking like an
idiot. Make sure you let the locksmith see you take the key off the ring so
he sees the other keys with paint on them. He will think you are just a
dumbass consumer that cant tell one key from another without painting the
damn things, which is fine and well for your purposes. If the first one dont
go for it try try again.
You can increase the chances of this working to damn near 100% if you get
the hottest flirtiest girl you know, assuming you arent a fucking loser who
only knows ugly girls, to take the key in. These guys dont get out much and
they will trip over themselves for some hot T&A.
Whatever you do dont tell your boss about the lost key. That might royally
fuck up somebodys plan to break in the building with it and boost every god
damn thing in site.
Advice given to student pilots: "When lost, climb and confess."
You'll feel a lot more stupid, and be in a lot more trouble, if you
delay reporting it.
It happens. Go in and admit it. Get over it. Learn from it.
Most reputable locksmiths, handed a key with paint, will hand it back or
scrape off the paint or both.
And a know-nothing in a hardware store won't duplicate a Keso. Which is
why the question was posted here.
It's known as key control. It's part of what the owner paid for when
they went with a higher-security locking system.
I do not think that smarty boy understands this. Nor the fact that
owners will react like wounded bulls if they find out that duplicates
are being made without authority. It is their money and they are more
than happy for locksmiths to behave like 'secret squirrels'.
"Martin" wrote in message:
Why not tell the truth... Fess up to loosing the key... That is the
honorable thing to do...
Besides the only thing you would have been able to do regarding the KESO
product line on the Sargent webpage would be to send off an e-mail to the
offices in Connecticut asking for a referral for an authorized KESO rep for
your area to contact you...
Not to mention that the KESO product line is considered OBSOLETE and the
Sargent (Assa/Abloy) company now recommends all of its customers seeking the
"ultimate" level of key control use its Sargent/Assa V-10 product line which
uses a side-bar locking system...
"somesmartass" wrote in message:
You seem to think that the $10,000 key machines that can orginiate dimple
keys grow on trees... There will only be on or two of those machines in an
entire state... I know this because I once had to search for a locksmith
capable of duplicating KABA dimple keys for the escalators at the mall I
previously worked for... Had to travel all the way to Albany from the
Boston area to have keys made, and then the locksmith was only willing to do
so because it was a non-restricted "catagory" type bitting, one of several
used exculsively for escalator keyswitches...
So a locksmith that has both the machine and the Keso blanks would know not
to produce any duplicates for you without some kind of documented
authorization as determined by the Sargent KESO key control policies...
~~ formerly a maintenance man, now a college student...
An authorization card similar to a credit card if it's master keyed or serial
coded. Without it the SSA suggestion isn't going to work, not without colusion
or complete incompetence on the part of the person making the copy.
Professional locksmiths have already pointed out it's unlikely you can
get what you want. One more thought -- if and when you eventually
turn in a key that is NOT stamped "Do not duplicate" you will be held
accountable. If and when the security provided by that key is broken,
you will be questioned and you will likely be asked to turn in your
key in order to obtain one for the new lock fitting. Think hard
before attempting to deceive your employer.
Which is enough if he's smart.
No I think leaves or sometimes needles grow on fucking trees.
There will only be on or two of those machines in an
That's because the secret squirrels knew right away as soon as you called
they were dealing with a fucking moron and wanted nothing to do with your
at the mall I
Ah the mall fired your ass and then you went to work at the tampon plant.
Had to travel all the way to Albany from the
Oh naive little jerk off. Getting restricted keys made without the proper
authorization, or at least the original proper authorization LOL is not
hard. I've done it a number of times. Usually though I send in Rebecca who
looks like Jennifer Garner only way hotter to sweet talk the secret
I see you were finally fired from the tampon plant.