Re: regarding safe lock combos

Aug 23, 2005 Last reply: 20 years ago 5 Replies

Greetings.



What is the current alt.locksmithing recommended maximum time to go without changing a safe combination? Of course, if someone who may have had access to the combination, and/or safe itself leaves the company, then that is probably a good time to change it, but if no such excuses existed, what then?


.times enemy


--Shiva-- wrote:



city bought a bank building, and it had a 'pressure door' Mosler
> door in the front vault some years back..
> They wanted the combination changed.. so I asked the former
> owner/bank president, for the combination
> LUCKILY it was locked OPEN.
>
> He had NO idea what it was.. having dialed it open for the last
> 25 years.. BUT, could dial it..
>
> So, I watched over his shoulder and wrote numbers down..
>
> He knew it, but could not tell you the numbers..
>
> Give me the safe, and the combo, and if its right, i will get it
> open, its no time to run through the several possibilities,
> BUT,,, you want directions, then I got to go find them written
> out so I can tell YOU correctly..
>
> --Shiva--

where is the safe? home or business? who has access to combo, or better yet HOW MANY? past that ..EVERYTIME someone is added or let go at a business would be MY thoughts..

drilled a floor safe once- 'company policy' said change every time new store manager or ever 6 months.. it hadnt been changed in 6 YEARS. loose screw on the back, caused 3 relockers.. the screw HEADS were worn off slic, due to constant use sliding on the floor. --Shiva--

I heard that a New Zealand bank had someone go round all branches every 6 months to change the combinations, presumably to turn the change key and check that the bank staff had done it right.

IMO a combination should also be changed if someone who had 'daytime' access to a safe or its immediate area leaves under suspicious circumstances.

A theft involving a 'clean opening' casts grave suspicion on those who hold the combination, so if those people have any concerns, the combination should be changes. Unfortunately there is gross carelessness with combinations including having it written next to the safe etc.

Conversely if a safe is taken out of service for sale etc it would seem wise to set the combination to the usual 'factory' setting so that it is easily opened by whoever uses it next.

The lock should probably be *inspected* on a yearly basis. And changing the combo is often free with a proper inspection. A warranty may also be included in that price.

Failing that: Depends on how many have had the combo and how much you trust them; also depends on whether other folks have had the opportunity to play with/observe the safe and possibly determine partial combinations. If nobody knows the combo but you, and nobody has ever been able to play with it or watch you operate it, your existing combo is (one hopes) as good as any other.

Nothing, but I trained myself out of that one long ago. (No harder than doing it with your two hands, after all.)

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