Sliding Gate Self-Latching Mortise Lock?

Dec 14, 2006 Last reply: 19 years ago 5 Replies

Got a customer, friend of mine, actually, who has 2 sliding gates into the back storage area of his shop. Locks are Adams-Rite 1850 (or equiv.). Shop personnel don't always remember to lock the more remote, less used, back gate and sometimes he will find that it has been left unlocked (but closed) for the weekend. A nuisance for personnel to get out of the truck and check to see if the gate is actually locked, so it occasionally is overlooked.



He originally asked me about key-retaining cylinders. As far as I know, this is not possible using the existing locks. And even then, personnel could just lock the lock so that they could get their key out, without closing or latching the gate.



I understand that someone used to manufacture a self-locking lock that could be used in such an area. The "bolt" would be shaped like a spear point and when the gate was closed, it would lock.



So, does anyone know if such a lock exists? And, if not, what sort of solution would you suggest. The gates are large and heavy, square steel tube construction.



TIA Ralph



To answer your question I believe that Welsh makes a sliding gate mortise lock, but you might be able to make the Adams Rite into key retaining.

Several ideas here, one, if a too long screw ( Try a Schlage latch screw.) is inserted into the center faceplate hole an interesting thing might happen depending on the hand of the lock.

You can also drill and tap in a roll pin into the back of the mortise cylinder to prevent the plug from turning a complete 360 degrees.

You might also be able to convert the function by modifying a cloverleaf cam making it into a half cloverleaf with the second lug preventing a full rotation of the plug.

Thanks for the response. My server apparently took a holiday between 12/8 and 12/16 so I have not seen any posts to this ng in that time.

Anyway, I think I'll get out some spare parts and experiment with what you wrote.

Ralph

This is actually some good practical information for solving a real life security headache. It's too bad you are bogged down in the security by obscurity crap you seem to have some good knowledge of your trade.

It is too bad you insist on making useless trolling posts like this one and the one to rifnraf. Some of your other posts are occasionally useful.

You mean like the one you just wrote.

I can't help it that Rifnraf pretends to be a security professional and then shows he is anything but by claiming that a thermal lance is some sort of electrical device like a plasma cutter. He's a clueless wannabe who lives up to his name. On a more serious note I'll ask the question again: How can old rif or anyone else for that matter be a competent security professional when they are completely ignorant of the tools and methods used to defeat security devices?? The answer of course is that they can't be. They can only be an incompetent security professional posing as a competent one.

Some of your other posts are occasionally useful.

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