"The Score" Safe blowing method works, well sorta anyway.

You should give Key a bit more credit. He is a knowledgable person and probably shares a lot you would find of interest. Why he snipes and plonks I don't really get but he does post useful information.

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Steve
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As usual Riffy you are way behind. What lancing would and would not destroy was clearly covered by the original poster way back in the original post.

Let's look at it

Along with a myriad of other businesses that stockpile anything from currency to precious metals..

Still think explosives which can exert millions of PSI of pressure won't rupture a safe without water huh? Care to explain the physics behind that yet? As far as your question above I would imagine any that happen to have a sink since adapters exist to connect a hose to one. For that matter any that have a toilet tank since you could dump a $50 10lb sump pump in it and hook it to a hose. Building water supply would feed the tank as long as the pump were pumping water out of it. Next you will tell me that someone who can aquire and operate a thermal lance and high explosives cannot get or use a sump pump and a hose.

As a lance runs on 440V, not many banks or

Riffy what in the hell are you talking about? Lances don't run on 440V or any other voltage. They run on Oxygen and superheated steal. I know. I have one. Albeit a small one but it is more than adequate to quickly pentrate virtually any safe, or anything else I have used it on. I tried it on hard plate in a burglarized unit I got from the scrap yard. It went through it like hot butter. Ditto for everything else I've tried it on. You don't even know what a thermal lance is do you?

Now lets think about

Nope wrong again but then that's not a surprise because it's clear you don't know what a thermal lance is or how it works. This is pretty surprising given that you are supposed to be an experienced locksmith who does enough safe work or sales to have 5 high security Chubbs which are typically not a cheap safe lying around. Any serious safe tech will know what a lance is and how it works even if he doesn't personally use one. You sure you don't just have a photo of 5 chubbs you cut out of some magazine? :). How can you be a security professional when you know nothing about one of the most infamous safe cracking tools there is? I'm nothing but an amateur who buys locked ones and opens them as a hobby and I own one, although I use if for other things as well, pretty much anything I use to drag out a cutting torch for. You on the other hand are supposedly a professional who is throwing out reasons a tool is not practical to use when you don't even have the first clue what the tool is or how it works.

not to mention the

Nope. Didn't happen that way. It just blew the door off. Watch the video. You have actually watched the video before going on and on about it haven't you?

when the

If there is it was already dealt with before they entered or they will be busted due to it going off whether they use explosives or not.

That's another topic in itself.

You don't even know what a thermal lance is and now you are expert enough on explosives to know whether they are or are not reasonable and what they will and will not do?

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Tim Mathews

Sorry. I saw Billy B. and just mentally filled in Bob I suppose. One of those first/middle name pairs that just seems to go together.

Did the lance ever even enter the safe itself? From what you describe and my admittedly limited knowledge I would guess that this was an attack directly on the lock bolt or some other critical component in the door.

So don't believe that

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Tim Mathews

This all makes sense. You may well be right. That's why I wish they had done two test.

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Tim Mathews

you know nothing about me timmy.. in my book, you're nothing but another troll !

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Key

Timmys lame comments doesn't bother me Steve. I couldn't care less what he thinks or says. I seen through his crap a long time ago. to me, he is nothing but another troll.

(the trolls are what I plonk & snip)

g'day to ya...

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