Re: overfilling a motorcycle engine.

Jul 08, 2003 5 Replies


What effect would overfilling a moterbike engine with oil have, say about 6


>mm overful on the sight glass?
>
>my bike has been stood for some time and when I took it out today it runs
>really rough - feels like a road drill !!
>It was ok before it was stood (was stood for 3months or so being
>occasionally started)
>only things that have changed are - new tyre fitted to back (balance and
>alignment is ok)
>new chain and sprocket fitted
>oil topped up.
>
>vibration is most noticeable when in top gear with the engine labouring
>slightly or when shutting the throttle from high speed
>and coasting down under engine braking......
>
>only obvious fault is the oil is overfull - could this cause a crank
>imbalance and thus quite heavy engine vibration???
>the fuelling appears ok and it all runs fine otherwise. I've checked all the
>mounting bolts are tight.
>I know that the oil level is clutching at straws but its the only think
>before a trip to the garage.....

Unless you put a stabilizer in the gas, dump the tank and fill with fresh fuel, remove the extra oil, and if a multicyclinder, balance the carbs.

I had my bike serviced by the local bike shop a couple of years back. They overfilled the oil by 2litres (the engine only takes 4litres). Thinking that they did the job correctly I rode the bike around all summer. I only noticed the extra oil when I changed it myself that autumn. What I did notice was that the bike seemed to run just fine with the extra oil but it seems to smoke more than it used to upon starting up. Probably a seal or a ring or something. I thought about complaining, but what would they do other than offer to redo the servicing, and I'm not having them touch the bike again (they overfilled the brake fluid as well). I've done my own servicing ever since.

James. 1979 Suzuki GS400, 9000kms.

Wonderful book.

You mean, THE LOCAL BIKE SHOP may have given the rings more oil than they were happy with. But I agree that a ring (most likely the left cylinder) is stuck.

Synthetic oil is all I run. I have done some high temperature riding (~2 hrs) and to no avail. The smoking isn't that bad and one of these days I'll get around to rebuilding the top end of the engine. That should clear things up.

wrote

Greetings.

First some apologies:

1) I'm pretty sure this post is in the wrong spot on this thread. Unfortunately, I didn't save the original post. Sorry! 2) I am certainly not a motorcycle designer, mechanic, or any other sort of clever chap.

My understanding is that, if you over fill a motorcycle with oil, the oil covers too much of the gears. The gears, in turn (pun!), will cause the oil to froth, which will prevent the oil from doing whatever it was meant to do.

The reason for not adding too much oil to your bike is not that it won't run swell afterwards, but that it won't run swell afterwards for as long as you might wish.

As to how much oil is too much oil, I've no idea. Life is, however, too short for such worries. Open the drain bolt, let out a bit of oil, close the drain bolt, problem (if there was one) solved! (That's what I did! )

Happy motoring!

Cordially, Richard Kanarek

P.S. When you discover you've let out too much oil, add new oil unless you're absolutely sure that no dirt fell into your drain pan with the oil.

further tests look to have eliminated the engine.

if i kill the engine and pull the clutch at 30mph and coast I can feel the vibrating sensation.

leads me to believe the problem can only be... Wheel bearings or chain / sprocket related or output shaft on gearbox related.

back to the garage this week...

ss

It has had new chain and sprockets within the last month - this was partly because I thought that that was causing vibration and...they were as you have said shot - the chain had a number of tight spots in it. if any thing the new chain / sprockets has made it feel worse and so....now suspect the bearing in the sprocket carrier.

ss.

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