5000 lbs crane on a 3/4 ton pickup

I spend so long editing the initial garbage that I spew for style and clarity and logical sequence that the session often times out and I have to copy and paste the text into a new one. That's why my posts may contain complete non-sequiturs where I missed a major change at line wrap, which isn't where you see it.

I began posting here for informal practice when I was having enormous difficulty writing technical reports and manuals. The group may complain but they don't write my review.

That pedantic, rigorous, and jargon-filled style is a valuable insider shorthand for concepts not easily expressed in standard civilian English. I just had an argument about Nuclear Magnetic Resonance in another group and found myself writing that way.

MITRE offered a class on how to write technical Governmentese, which is similar to Legalese in that some words have specific restricted meanings. The instructor explained that the writing style of an organization mirrors its balance between freedom of initiative and personal responsibility, and the consequences of mistakes. He used a bank as one extreme and an artists' collective as the other. An investment prospectus and an art review are the same thing written under different rules in radically different styles.

jsw

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Jim Wilkins
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Leading, not drifting. I had to commit to a major when I applied for college, before I really knew which science to choose. I might have switched from chemistry to mechanical or electrical engineering if I had done better in calculus. The Army put me in electronics where I stayed. However the chemistry curriculum was very broad and a good preparation for most anything. For instance I learned how to fudge a political survey by biasing the selection criteria, like calling during the day when only unemployed people are home.

In the 1990's at MITRE I took night classes toward an EE degree and maintained a 4.0, including calculus. The night school teachers were practical people with day jobs who treated math as a tool, not an abstract art form.

jsw

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PLUS, you were more mature.

My son (23) is going for a master's in math at Georgetown this coming fall. It's an "applied math" program, which I strongly encouraged. He did fine in the abstract stuff at the undergrad level, through two semesters of performing proofs in Real Analysis, but I could tell he was running out of patience for proofs, while he loved the applied subjects in calculus and statistics. Now he uses them every day doing econometric analysis and I'm expecting he'll really love the applied math. His mind seems to work a lot like mine, only better. d8-)

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Ed Huntress

I spend so long editing the initial garbage that I spew for style and clarity and logical sequence that the session often times out and I have to copy and paste the text into a new one. That's why my posts may contain complete non-sequiturs where I missed a major change at line wrap, which isn't where you see it.

I began posting here for informal practice when I was having enormous difficulty writing technical reports and manuals. The group may complain but they don't write my review.

That pedantic, rigorous, and jargon-filled style is a valuable insider shorthand for concepts not easily expressed in standard civilian English. I just had an argument about Nuclear Magnetic Resonance in another group and found myself writing that way.

MITRE offered a class on how to write technical Governmentese, which is similar to Legalese in that some words have specific restricted meanings. The instructor explained that the writing style of an organization mirrors its balance between freedom of initiative and personal responsibility, and the consequences of mistakes. He used a bank as one extreme and an artists' collective as the other. An investment prospectus and an art review are the same thing written under different rules in radically different styles.

jsw

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He could have used medical writing as his example of pedantry. Editing it is as painful as writing it.

However, every once in a while I would get an article written by a doctor who not only stuck to style, but also wrote clearly and even entertainingly. No kidding. I wish I'd kept a list of them. They'd make great examples for a technical writing class.

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Ed Huntress

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You've participated in RCM long enough to know what 'garbage' is, Jim. Your posts are exactly the opposite, IMNSHO.

Yes. One is a fantastical work of hyperbole that concludes with a mean surprise at the end. The other one is an art review.

When we discuss SWMBO's day, she sometimes falls into 'Organizational Lingo' and I ask her to back up and explain some of the acronyms.

I'm guilty too. I got a look of utter surprise from a nice lady last week when I mentioned that I was having difficulty with my 'POP client'. Shame on me. :)

--Winston

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Winston

Gunner Asch on Wed, 18 May 2011 01:54:09 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Amazing how flexible truck beds can be. Especially to the torque of an asymmetrical load.

Oh I don't know, a bed whcih is six inches thick _might_ hold.

Then again, the whole bed might also just come loose from the frame, from the torque.

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pyotr filipivich

Is there mounting plate locations on the Frame underneath ? Attach low and have a hole in the bed going down to the plate.

These almost no frame cars and some trucks might be a nightmare.

Full size trucks have rails for the frame.

Just an idea. Naturally if you have to have the payload area for a load you are then talking about outriders that you plant into the ground (plate under them) to stabilize side loads.

Mart> Gunner Asch on Wed, 18 May 2011 01:54:09 -0700

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Martin Eastburn

I had a 1 ton Chev dually I took a 1/4 inch thick wall pipe and welded it to the side of the frame right behind the spring hanger bracket and weld to it to cut a hole in the bed so the pipe was flush with the bottom of the bed so there was nothing sticking up when the hoist was remove. I use it for years picking up various things I think the heaviest thing I lifted was a 8x8 foot steel disk and loaded it on a trailer I had made a 6 foot boom for mine with capped ends.

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dozer650j

replying to Ignoramus31865, Wing wrote: Y not ubolt the lift frame to the truck frame. U might want to box the truck frame where the bolts are. I would make sure to fill the void Btwn the top of the frame and bottom of box at the mounting points Consider two support jacks in the rear one on the front right in case u are doing side lift

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Wing

replying to Ignoramus31865, Wing wrote: Y not ubolt the lift frame to the truck frame. U might want to box the truck frame where the bolts are. I would make sure to fill the void Btwn the top of the frame and bottom of box at the mounting points Consider two support jacks in the rear one on the front right in case u are doing side lift

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Wing

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