Black lives matter

OK, let me ask you a question.

If the police feels too intimidated to get out of their cars and confront criminals, in black neighborhoods, would that be good or bad for the residents of those neighborhoods?

Would that save black lives?

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Ignoramus13886
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Jim Wilkins

The vast majority of victims of firearm related homicide are criminals. In Boston between 1990 and 1994 some 75% of homicides were individuals having a criminal record. In Philadelphia, the percentage of those killed in gun homicides that had prior criminal records was

93% in 1996. In Richmond, Virginia, the risk of gunshot injury is 22 times higher for those males involved with crime.

So, who is committing the crimes? Or perhaps "where are the majority of the crimes committed"?

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John B.

Very interesting. I am thinking, now, if the police stop pursuing drug dealers, will tat increase or decrease crime? It almost amounts to a stealthy decriminalization of drugs.

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Ignoramus25528

When I was in the Army in Germany in the early 1970's the excessive zeal of civil rights lawyers destroyed discipline to the extent that drug use became uncontrolled. Barracks inspections ceased so the officers wouldn't have to see but ignore the punchbowls of hashish. Heroin users walked around with their works in their shirt pockets.

The effect was surprisingly minimal, although examples from Army life don't extend well to civil society. The 10 - 20% of us who make everything happen continued to and the happy dopers mostly stayed out of our way. Of course the military is functionally a dictatorial communist society where everyone gets fed and paid regardless of how much or little they contribute.

When required to prove they were addressing the issue the Army created Drug Education Specialists, for which I was designated since my job consisted of being available for a rare repair call and the classroom was next to an airstrip.

The training consisted entirely of watching a grad student's films of how various intoxicants reduce the blood flow through a frog's transparent foot capillaries. His presentation was well prepared, I could see how he BS'd his way into the paid jaunt to Europe.

He was NOT prepared for a soldier with a chemistry degree among a class of those whose presence at home would not be missed.

-jsw

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Jim Wilkins

"Gun suicides have increased from 57 percent of all firearm-related deaths" ------

The Washington Post says that: "There were 32,288 deaths from firearm viole nce in the United States in 2012, a rate that's remained relatively stable over the past few years. But since 2006, gun suicides have increased from 5

7 percent of all firearm-related deaths, according to research published th is month in the Annual Review of Public Health."

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mogulah

Anyone can hastily form a group. These groups come and go. More relevant is ANYONE owning a gun. (because no one can foresee if they themselves will be killed with it first)

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mogulah

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Reply to
Ignoramus25528

Bad.

No, it would probably end up in more lives lost (when the criminals knew they would always get away with the crimes. But it would switch deaths from the criminals (killed by cops) to the neighbors (killed by the criminals). That's a bad thing, too.

- To change one's self is sufficient. It's the idiots who want to change the world who are causing all the trouble. --Anonymous

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Larry Jaques

But you have to ask why they're intimidated. Is it because they're used to ignoring the law, and now they're afraid they won't get away with it?

There have been some good statements by high-level police officials lately, to the effect that this video recording may finally be the trick that enables something they've been trying to do for decades -- encourage professionalizing of the politce, and building a better relationship with the communities they serve.

Meantime, there is going to be some blowback and overreaction. Let's hope it works out positively, and soon.

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Ed Huntress

I think it is because they do not believe there can be a positive benefit f rom getting out of their car. They feel that the suspect might shoot them and that whatever they do may be reported as harassment. If the suspect do es pull a gun and the police shoot, then they are likely to end up out of a job and indited for unreasonable force. So just stay in the car and drive on.

Dan

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dcaster

Except that hasn't happened, unless you know of a particular case. The few who have found themselves out of a job seem to be fired for good reasons.

I don't think they're intimidated at all. I think they're pissed off because they feel they're being picked on, and they're going to take it out on everyone else.

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Ed Huntress

Well if we were to instruct the police to ignore, robbery, fraud and beating one's wife as well as dope dealers, why we could practically eliminate crime.

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John B.

Florida has the highest concealed carry numbers of all the states. But I still think that there would be more crime if the cops stopped patrolling bad areas. Poor folks can't afford guns. (They can't afford not to own/train, either. )

That just sucks. The LAPD burglarized his house!

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Larry Jaques

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